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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yeah well, got to agree with you there. Politics never expedited anything.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">No further comment from me on this topic though – this isn’t a whirlpool forum.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’m also raising the white flag here for those that have strong views on this, no time for an argument today!
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Tony Wicks [mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 12 May 2017 2:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Benjamin Ricardo <ben.ricardo@acs.net.au><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Ausnog' <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] NYTimes article on the NBN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Sure, distance is a factor for some of it, but it does not even come close to explaining the stark difference. Let’s face it, the big difference id Telecom NZ was relatively peacefully
split into Chorus (in ground infrastructure) and Spark (retail, mobile, everything else) and instead of fighting to the bitter end (aka Telstra) they just got on with it. For example, In NZ a dark fibre from an exchange to a city end point costs $355/mth from
Chorus (and others who followed suit). Why is a local piece of fibre within Sydney so much more expensive than one in Queenstown? A 1G/500M GPON retail access cost $60/mth to the service provider.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The big difference here from what I can see from the outside is politics and the big existing players fighting to the bitter end rather than just getting on board.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Benjamin Ricardo [</span><a href="mailto:ben.ricardo@acs.net.au"><span lang="EN-US">mailto:ben.ricardo@acs.net.au</span></a><span lang="EN-US">]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 12 May 2017 3:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tony Wicks <</span><a href="mailto:tony@wicks.co.nz"><span lang="EN-US">tony@wicks.co.nz</span></a><span lang="EN-US">>; 'Alex Samad' <</span><a href="mailto:alex@samad.com.au"><span lang="EN-US">alex@samad.com.au</span></a><span lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Ausnog' <</span><a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"><span lang="EN-US">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] NYTimes article on the NBN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">We’re about 29 times bigger with only 5 times more people… that could be part of the problem…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [</span><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"><span lang="EN-US">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony Wicks<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 12 May 2017 1:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Alex Samad' <</span><a href="mailto:alex@samad.com.au"><span lang="EN-US">alex@samad.com.au</span></a><span lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Ausnog' <</span><a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"><span lang="EN-US">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NYTimes article on the NBN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">It is somewhat amusing to watch from a Kiwi point of view when you see how smoothly our “UFB” FTTH rollout is going and New Zealand takes an unassailable lead! Nice to be winning for
a change </span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">😊</span><span lang="EN-NZ" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [</span><a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"><span lang="EN-US">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Alex Samad<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 12 May 2017 2:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ausnog <</span><a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"><span lang="EN-US">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</span></a><span lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] NYTimes article on the NBN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-NZ">I thought NYTimes was a Murdoch rag ...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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