[AusNOG] TPG and iiNet networks merged?

[Matt Taylor]

I had my NBN HFC activated 4 days ago, and here's a mtr to 
ftp.iinet.net.au, just for those who are curious:

> [root at box ~]# mtr ftp.iinet.net.au -rwc 10
> Start: Fri Mar  3 10:53:12 2017
> HOST: box.idle.host                           Loss%   Snt   Last Avg  
> Best  Wrst StDev
>   1.|-- 10.1.1.1                                 0.0%    10 0.3   
> 0.4   0.3   0.5   0.0
>   2.|-- 10.20.22-133.tpgi.com.au                 0.0%    10 8.3   
> 8.6   8.2   9.3   0.0
>   3.|-- 203-219-35-129.static.tpgi.com.au        0.0%    10 10.7  
> 13.3  10.7  16.8   1.8
>   4.|-- syd-apt-ros-crt1-be-50.tpgi.com.au       0.0%    10 11.8  
> 13.4  10.3  16.9   2.2
>   5.|-- syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-200.tpgi.com.au      0.0%    10 11.9  
> 10.0   8.1  11.9   1.0
>   6.|-- 203-219-107-254.static.tpgi.com.au       0.0%    10 9.9   
> 9.6   8.6  11.6   0.7
>   7.|-- ae14.br1.syd7.on.ii.net                  0.0%    10 58.0  
> 59.4  57.8  62.8   1.8
>   8.|-- ae4.cr1.adl6.on.ii.net                   0.0%    10 60.6  
> 59.2  58.0  60.8   0.8
>   9.|-- ae17.cr1.per4.on.ii.net                  0.0%    10 57.3  
> 57.9  57.3  58.3   0.0
>  10.|-- po4.ici-ndc-core1.per4.on.ii.net         0.0%    10 58.4  
> 58.7  57.7  60.8   0.8
>  11.|-- po3-7.ici-osb-core1.per3.on.ii.net       0.0%    10 57.4  
> 57.4  56.6  59.3   0.6
>  12.|-- te2-3-2000.icp-osb-core1.per3.on.ii.net  0.0%    10 57.0  
> 57.0  56.2  57.6   0.0
>  13.|-- ftp.iinet.net.au                         0.0%    10 56.1  
> 57.3  56.1  58.5   0.6

I assume 'new' customers are being provisioned on TPG's hardware. My 
provisioning task was riddled with notes from Frontier.

Cheers,
Matt.


On 3/3/17 09:43, Philip Loenneker wrote:
>
> Hi Matt,
>
> I can’t comment on whether they are merged at all, but I can tell you 
> that you can run PPPoE and IPoE on the same CVC. In fact, with the 
> right configuration, you can accept PPPoE and IPoE on the one AVC. It 
> has questionable value, but it certainly is possible.
>
> Regards,
>
> *Philip Loenneker | Network Engineer**| TasmaNet*
>
> *From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of 
> *Matt Selbst
> *Sent:* Friday, 3 March 2017 9:37 AM
> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] TPG and iiNet networks merged?
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've seen various conflicting postings on this and thought I'd ask the 
> question.
>
> Are TPG retail and iiNet still running separate networks or have they 
> now merged in to one?
>
> As far as I can tell the big differences between the two is that iiNet 
> still peers on the various peering exchanges and uses IPoE on NBN 
> whereas TPG doesn't peer (outside of PIPE) and uses PPPoE for NBN auth.
>
> Given the different NBN auth mechanisms would they be running 
> separates CVCs to NBNco?
>
> Just wondering if anyone with knowledge knows if they are truly 
> technically separate networks or if they are just two brands now 
> running on the same network?
>
> -Matt
>

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