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    I had my NBN HFC activated 4 days ago, and here's a mtr to
    <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au">ftp.iinet.net.au</a>, just for those who are curious:<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite">[root@box ~]# mtr <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au">ftp.iinet.net.au</a> -rwc 10<br>
      Start: Fri Mar  3 10:53:12 2017<br>
      HOST: box.idle.host                           Loss%   Snt   Last  
      Avg  Best  Wrst StDev<br>
        1.|-- 10.1.1.1                                 0.0%    10   
      0.3   0.4   0.3   0.5   0.0<br>
        2.|-- 10.20.22-133.tpgi.com.au                 0.0%    10   
      8.3   8.6   8.2   9.3   0.0<br>
        3.|-- 203-219-35-129.static.tpgi.com.au        0.0%    10  
      10.7  13.3  10.7  16.8   1.8<br>
        4.|-- syd-apt-ros-crt1-be-50.tpgi.com.au       0.0%    10  
      11.8  13.4  10.3  16.9   2.2<br>
        5.|-- syd-gls-har-wgw1-be-200.tpgi.com.au      0.0%    10  
      11.9  10.0   8.1  11.9   1.0<br>
        6.|-- 203-219-107-254.static.tpgi.com.au       0.0%    10   
      9.9   9.6   8.6  11.6   0.7<br>
        7.|-- ae14.br1.syd7.on.ii.net                  0.0%    10  
      58.0  59.4  57.8  62.8   1.8<br>
        8.|-- ae4.cr1.adl6.on.ii.net                   0.0%    10  
      60.6  59.2  58.0  60.8   0.8<br>
        9.|-- ae17.cr1.per4.on.ii.net                  0.0%    10  
      57.3  57.9  57.3  58.3   0.0<br>
       10.|-- po4.ici-ndc-core1.per4.on.ii.net         0.0%    10  
      58.4  58.7  57.7  60.8   0.8<br>
       11.|-- po3-7.ici-osb-core1.per3.on.ii.net       0.0%    10  
      57.4  57.4  56.6  59.3   0.6<br>
       12.|-- te2-3-2000.icp-osb-core1.per3.on.ii.net  0.0%    10  
      57.0  57.0  56.2  57.6   0.0<br>
       13.|-- <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au">ftp.iinet.net.au</a>                         0.0%    10  
      56.1  57.3  56.1  58.5   0.6</blockquote>
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    I assume 'new' customers are being provisioned on TPG's hardware. My
    provisioning task was riddled with notes from Frontier.<br>
    <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    Matt.<br>
    <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/3/17 09:43, Philip Loenneker
      wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            Matt,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
            can’t comment on whether they are merged at all, but I can
            tell you that you can run PPPoE and IPoE on the same CVC. In
            fact, with the right configuration, you can accept PPPoE and
            IPoE on the one AVC. It has questionable value, but it
            certainly is possible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:JA"
            lang="EN-US">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              lang="EN-US">Philip Loenneker | Network Engineer</span></b><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#ED7D31;mso-fareast-language:JA"
              lang="EN-US"> | TasmaNet<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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            lang="EN-US"> AusNOG
            [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt Selbst<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Friday, 3 March 2017 9:37 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] TPG and iiNet networks merged?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">I've seen various conflicting postings
              on this and thought I'd ask the question.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Are TPG retail and iiNet still running
              separate networks or have they now merged in to one?<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">As far as I can tell the big
              differences between the two is that iiNet still peers on
              the various peering exchanges and uses IPoE on NBN whereas
              TPG doesn't peer (outside of PIPE) and uses PPPoE for NBN
              auth. <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Given the different NBN auth mechanisms
              would they be running separates CVCs to NBNco?<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Just wondering if anyone with knowledge
              knows if they are truly technically separate networks or
              if they are just two brands now running on the same
              network?<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">-Matt<o:p></o:p></p>
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