[AusNOG] Government intends to pass TSSR this parliament
Paul Wilkins
paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
Tue Jun 13 19:53:08 EST 2017
When we talk of Privacy as a fundamental principle of democracy since the
days of Magna Carta, we need to put that in context.
Firstly, we need to recognise the authority of the State is necessary for
security and freedom.
Secondly, to a large but not (Josef Fritzl) extent, what you do in your
basement is no one else's business. But internet traffic crosses property
boundaries, into the public space, and the carriage of that traffic in the
public space is through licensed carriers.
Thirdly, it would be negligent of governments to simply cede the cyber
domain to the crooks, crazies, and creeps. The internet is going to be
regulated, and its necessary for good government and public order that that
be the case.
Sooner or later, crypto is going to be regulated and you'll need to license
private keys in escrow. That this isn't already the case is simply the
fault of legislation failing to keep pace with technology.
Kind regards
Paul Wilkins
On 13 June 2017 at 19:11, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:
> It is expensive in many ways - to achieve near-real time interception and
> decryption (in-flight or at-rest) basically requires the keys. Elsewise it
> can't be achieved in a suitably short time.
>
> On 13 Jun. 2017 5:34 pm, "Phillip Grasso" <phillip.grasso at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "The privacy of a terrorist can never be more important than public
>> safety. Never."
>>
>> Is it a question of privacy or cost? The means exist to decrypt, its just
>> more expensive.
>>
>> On 13 June 2017 at 00:16, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Brandis: "Trust me, we only want the envelope, not the content."
>>>
>>> <David Speers interviews him to see what that actually means, everybody
>>> laughs>
>>>
>>> Brandis: "Actually, we want the content too."
>>>
>>> <silence>
>>>
>>>
>>> - mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On 06/13/2017 04:16 PM, James Andrewartha wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.pm.gov.au/media/2017-06-13/national-security-statement
>>>>
>>>> Also includes the usual BS about breaking encryption in the name of
>>>> national security, aka the war on maths.
>>>>
>>>> "However encrypted messaging applications are also used by criminals and
>>>> terrorists - at the moment much of this traffic is difficult for our
>>>> security agencies to decrypt, and indeed for our Five Eyes partners as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Most of the major platforms of this kind are based in the United States
>>>> where a strong libertarian tradition resists Government access to
>>>> private
>>>> communications as the FBI found when Apple would not help unlock the
>>>> iPhone of the dead San Bernardino terrorist.
>>>>
>>>> The privacy of a terrorist can never be more important than public
>>>> safety.
>>>> Never."
>>>>
>>>>
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