[AusNOG] Ransomware...

[Skeeve Stevens]

That's my point.

Paying Ransomware people should be the last options, but it is still an
option.


...Skeeve

*Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com

Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve ; LinkedIn: /in/skeeve
<http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile
<https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9> ; Keybase: https://keybase.io/skeeve

On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Matt Smee <m.smee at unsw.edu.au> wrote:

> Well this is a fun read.
>
>
>
> To those who think paying for the ransomware is a bad thing, let me ask
> you: is it wrong to pay for it if the data it unlocks may save someone’s
> life, at say…a hospital?
>
>
>
> https://www.wired.com/2016/03/ransomware-why-hospitals-are-
> the-perfect-targets/
>
>
>
> The reality is yes there should be backups/DR and ideally yes you
> shouldn’t encourage criminal behaviour, but in the real world business
> continuity or the greater good come before our simplistic moral ideals.
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Wilkins
> *Sent:* Saturday, 24 September 2016 2:51 PM
> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Ransomware...
>
>
>
> Well I think part of the problem is that businesses have been conned into
> investing billion of dollars into the internet, on the false premise that
> the IP model was capable of delivering a safe and secure commercial
> environment. While neglecting that the internet was built to facilitate
> open communication, that the architecture was necessarily a compromise of
> openness for security, and no one anticipated that state operators would
> make the internet a domain for undermining Western economies, or that the
> consequent profits would bankroll the exercise. All the security products
> on the market are a band aid patch, which won't fix the fundamental problem
> of delivering end to end security. That's only going to happen when and if
> there is a complete rethink of the internet architecture, and replacement
> of IP with a network protocol that can deliver end to end security. Which
> is to say, we have years to look forward to of high profile hacks and
> finger pointing.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Paul Wilkins
>
>
>
> On 24 September 2016 at 14:09, grenville armitage <garmitage at swin.edu.au>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 09/24/2016 10:21, Robert Hudson wrote:
>     [..]
>
>
> Paying a criminal a ransom when they have carried out an illegal act is
> legitimising the business model.
>
>
> Precisely the reason I believe we should refuse to hand over our wallets
> or purses to muggers. Make a stand. Refuse to legitimise an illegal
> business model. I shouldn't have been walking down that street without
> backup(s) anyway...
>
> </stretched_analogy>
>
> (I don't know who I'm taking the piss out of, but the thread smells way
> past its use-by minute in any case.)
>
> cheers,
> gja
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/attachments/20160924/d67cee42/attachment.html>