[AusNOG] The shape of DDoS to come

[Peter Tiggerdine]

Reading both articles seems to give a lot of "creative license" to the term
IoT. This is the problem with journo's today, facts from credible and
verifiable sources seems to be not a requirement anymore. At least Ars
mentioned it in the article, but it begs the question why print it?

DVR and IP cameras aren't IoT. We've had both of those long before the term
IoT existed.

Unpatched home routers are likely to make up the bulk of the traffic

Regards,

Peter Tiggerdine

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On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Nick Stallman <nick at agentpoint.com> wrote:

> Yes there is.
> There are a few keywords to focus on however.
>
> Like 'part'. Technically if just a single IoT device was part of the
> attack then the media will say it was a IoT attack.
>
> And 'device'. If you start calling security DVR's IoT devices (arguably
> they aren't, they are a server) then yep a few thousand of them took part.
>
> I could be wrong but my impression was the bulk was traditional DDoS and
> not mostly IoT.
>
> On 27/10/16 11:17, Peter Tiggerdine wrote:
>
>> Is there any evidence to suggest that IoT devices played a part on this
>> DDoS? My understanding is we're still dealing with the same problem as
>> ever; unpatched/secured desktops/routers/switches which when you consider
>> how accessible large amounts of bandwidth is explain the increase in DDoS
>> size.
>>
>> Most IoT devices don't enough CPU power to contribute more than 1K
>> sustained. Doesn't mean there's not alot to be done in the security space
>> with IoT, just means there's better targets with greater return.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter Tiggerdine
>>
>> GPG Fingerprint: 2A3F EA19 F6C2 93C1 411D 5AB2 D5A8 E8A8 0E74 6127
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:54 AM, mike at thebibers.com <mailto:
>> mike at thebibers.com> <mbiber at ipv6forum.com.au <mailto:
>> mbiber at ipv6forum.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>>     IPv6 with mandatory IPsec Authentication through filtering engines?
>>
>>     Michael Biber
>>     IPv6Now
>>     6now.net <http://6now.net>
>>     0412058808 <tel:0412058808>
>>
>>
>>     On 27 Oct 2016 10:03 AM, "Paul Wilkins" <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         After Mirai's 1.2Tbps, which is pretty much unmitigateable,
>>         perhaps time for the industry to realise that IoT means we've
>>         arrived at a new age of DDoS. If this is the shape of things
>>         to come, where do we go from here?
>>
>>         Kind regards
>>
>>         Paul Wilkins
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