<div dir="ltr">Reading both articles seems to give a lot of "creative license" to the term IoT. This is the problem with journo's today, facts from credible and verifiable sources seems to be not a requirement anymore. At least Ars mentioned it in the article, but it begs the question why print it? <div><br></div><div>DVR and IP cameras aren't IoT. We've had both of those long before the term IoT existed. </div><div><br></div><div>Unpatched home routers are likely to make up the bulk of the traffic </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Regards,<div><br></div><div>Peter Tiggerdine</div><div><br></div><div>GPG Fingerprint: 2A3F EA19 F6C2 93C1 411D 5AB2 D5A8 E8A8 0E74 6127</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Nick Stallman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nick@agentpoint.com" target="_blank">nick@agentpoint.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yes there is.<br>
There are a few keywords to focus on however.<br>
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Like 'part'. Technically if just a single IoT device was part of the attack then the media will say it was a IoT attack.<br>
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And 'device'. If you start calling security DVR's IoT devices (arguably they aren't, they are a server) then yep a few thousand of them took part.<br>
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I could be wrong but my impression was the bulk was traditional DDoS and not mostly IoT.<span class=""><br>
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On 27/10/16 11:17, Peter Tiggerdine wrote:<br>
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Is there any evidence to suggest that IoT devices played a part on this DDoS? My understanding is we're still dealing with the same problem as ever; unpatched/secured desktops/routers/switches which when you consider how accessible large amounts of bandwidth is explain the increase in DDoS size.<br>
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Most IoT devices don't enough CPU power to contribute more than 1K sustained. Doesn't mean there's not alot to be done in the security space with IoT, just means there's better targets with greater return.<br>
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On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:54 AM, <a href="mailto:mike@thebibers.com" target="_blank">mike@thebibers.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mike@thebibers.com" target="_blank">mike@thebibers.com</a>> <<a href="mailto:mbiber@ipv6forum.com.au" target="_blank">mbiber@ipv6forum.com.au</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mbiber@ipv6forum.com.au" target="_blank">mbiber@ipv6forum.com.a<wbr>u</a>>> wrote:<br>
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IPv6 with mandatory IPsec Authentication through filtering engines?<br>
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On 27 Oct 2016 10:03 AM, "Paul Wilkins" <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a><br></span><span class="">
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After Mirai's 1.2Tbps, which is pretty much unmitigateable,<br>
perhaps time for the industry to realise that IoT means we've<br>
arrived at a new age of DDoS. If this is the shape of things<br>
to come, where do we go from here?<br>
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