[AusNOG] Off Topic - Brisbane recruitment recommendations

[Tim Raphael]

Oh yes, if you are searching for a job based on the tools, then you are doing it the wrong way, for sure!

- Tim


> On 16 May 2016, at 11:15 AM, Thomas Cuthbert <tcuthbert90 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> ​I’ve almost concluded that if you want a career in this space, at the moment, it’ll be up to you to find a niche position that suits your skill set.
>  ​
> Or relocate to where companies require talent over COTS tools. Which as has been the theme to my career progression over the last 3 years.
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> 
> Regards,
> 
> Thomas Cuthbert
> 
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 9:38 AM, Tim Raphael <raphael.timothy at gmail.com <mailto:raphael.timothy at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Exactly, DevOps is a different slant on the modern “infrastructure as code” idea when compared to “NetOps”. Although a new and hardly used term, NetOps is probably the best description of the specialised knowledge that comes with networks and automating them. There are plenty of people talking about NetOps but few job adverts asking for it. 
> 
> I’ve almost concluded that if you want a career in this space, at the moment, it’ll be up to you to find a niche position that suits your skill set.
> 
> - Tim
> 
>> On 16 May 2016, at 9:34 AM, Will Dowling <will at autodeist.com <mailto:will at autodeist.com>> wrote:
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>>> Although this appears to have gone off on a tangent, to bring it back to Cameron's original question: Where is the best place to get a consensus on the state of the industry with regard to this particular skill set?
>> 
>> +1 from someone who considers himself someone with this skill set and is confused by the market :(
>> 
>> Unless you’re working with a big enough content provider (e.g.: Googles’ “Network Systems Engineer” positions mentioned as AusNOG), people are probably hiring this as “DevOps” with all the pain that comes along with a buzzword title.
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>> NoOps is the latest one, though I haven’t seen any jobs in AU for this yet - but is probably more targeted towards consumers of networks than anyone on this list.
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>> Otherwise (and more often than not) it sounds like personal connections are still king for this space.
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>> Forget it if you’re looking to be in the architecture/design/leadership side of this (and even more if you’re based in WA).
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>> Happy to be proven wrong :) 
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>> 
>> Will Dowling
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>> E: will at autodeist.com <mailto:will at autodeist.com>
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