[AusNOG] Off Topic - Brisbane recruitment recommendations

Greg mclennan at internode.on.net
Thu May 12 20:02:07 EST 2016


Hi

I've been working in IT for over eleven years(Global Satellite Comms & 
Networking and general IT).
About 5 years ago I decided to formalize my knowledge(did it all 
backwards!) and headed off to Uni(off campus) as an 'undergraduate'. 
Next month(Age 41 !) if all goes well, I walk out with a Bachelor of 
Information Technology 'Cloud computing' degree(Deakin Uni).
That said I'll be one of the 1st of a bunch of uni students who have 
such a degree title as that major is relatively new in the higher 
education sector. So I would imaging that in a few years there should be 
a flood of people with similar degrees&majors to help fill the current void.

Anyhow the crux of the point I wish to make, is how many of you in the 
network industry work and speak with your local big Universities and 
talk to them about real world current/upcoming skill set requirements 
and to help tailor the education of upcoming IT students that do ooze 
out of the system, so they have the basics all sorted out, 
mitigating(obviously to a point)  problems described below? e.g In the 
main cloud computing subject, we did a lot of work on Amazon/EC2 
concepts and how it all bolts together, but did little to nothing on 
SDN/Azure and general cloud management software, but I felt we could 
have fitted more useful topics in..

Most students who do study degree's in IT,  are also required to 
now-a-days complete an internship in the last year of their degree, 
usually for several weeks/months. They are not necessarily paid intern 
positions, students also often have to go find there own 
placement(research employers, and directly inquire and hope theirs 
something available). That said, if this industry is looking to bolster 
its numbers and overall skills/experiences,  it would not hurt to send 
some of those entry level cloud/network job ad's or intern positions you 
have to your local university(most uni's have job shop/intern areas that 
work with current students to help them move into the workforce or get a 
mandatory internship.) that offers courses that your business 
specializes in, and gives those students who are nearing the end of 
there degree, 1. get a foot in the door(even if its just a internship), 
2. If it is in intern position and you like there skills & attitude you 
can always offer employment at the end of their term with you and train 
them in the finer detail of the dark arts !!.

Cheers
Greg

On 12/05/2016 8:37 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> Most people are having trouble at the moment.
>
> It is an interesting time that I've spoken about at Commsday events, 
> talking about the void of skills in certain areas:
>
> - Cloud specialisation and experience (AWS, Azure, Google Compute)
> - DevOps skills - Ansible, Puppet, Chef - with deployment experience
> - Network (Cisco/Juniper/etc) + Linux + NetDevOps experience
> - Anyone with actual experience on SDN
> - IoT infrastructure experience - even using the AWS/Azure tools
> - Languages like Golang
>
> It isn't that the people don't exist, they are just extremely rare 
> right now with most Network Engineers not having started, or only just 
> starting their DevOps journey.
>
> Employers are aware of the need... but there is no pool of available 
> talent for the number of jobs out there.  I've been doing some 
> consulting for a couple of tech recruitment firms advising them how to 
> talk to their customers about the need to take someone with 'certain' 
> skills and grow them in the right direction as opposed to pre-built 
> people with experience.
>
> Right now I've seen jobs posted, and literally zero applications for 
> 100k jobs.  I think we're in a new era where the certification market 
> hasn't entered yet, so there is no body of even offshore resource pool 
> with the right skills.
>
> Those who re/up skill now will be the most valuable in the market... 
> especially good network engineers who learn Linux and how to code... 
> that is gold.
>
>
>
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
> *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
> Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com 
> <mailto:skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com> ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com 
> <http://eintellegonetworks.com/>
>
> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve ; LinkedIn: /in/skeeve 
> <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile 
> <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9> ; Keybase: https://keybase.io/skeeve
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:12 AM, Cameron Murray 
> <cameron.murray at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.murray at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Guys,
>
>     Looking for recommendations for recruiters in Brisbane who have
>     experience placing candidates for a MSP role.
>
>     Currently we have 4 - 5 roles and having a difficult time filling
>     the positions.
>
>     Regards
>
>     Cameron
>
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