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    Hi<br>
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    I've been working in IT for over eleven years(Global Satellite Comms
    & Networking and general IT). <br>
    About 5 years ago I decided to formalize my knowledge(did it all
    backwards!) and headed off to Uni(off campus) as an 'undergraduate'.
    Next month(Age 41 !) if all goes well, I walk out with a Bachelor of
    Information Technology 'Cloud computing' degree(Deakin Uni).<br>
    That said I'll be one of the 1st of a bunch of uni students who have
    such a degree title as that major is relatively new in the higher
    education sector. So I would imaging that in a few years there
    should be a flood of people with similar degrees&majors to help
    fill the current void.<br>
    <br>
    Anyhow the crux of the point I wish to make, is how many of you in
    the network industry work and speak with your local big Universities
    and talk to them about real world current/upcoming skill set
    requirements and to help tailor the education of upcoming IT
    students that do ooze out of the system, so they have the basics all
    sorted out, mitigating(obviously to a point)  problems described
    below? e.g In the main cloud computing subject, we did a lot of work
    on Amazon/EC2 concepts and how it all bolts together, but did little
    to nothing on SDN/Azure and general cloud management software, but I
    felt we could have fitted more useful topics in..<br>
    <br>
    Most students who do study degree's in IT,  are also required to
    now-a-days complete an internship in the last year of their degree,
    usually for several weeks/months. They are not necessarily paid
    intern positions, students also often have to go find there own
    placement(research employers, and directly inquire and hope theirs
    something available). That said, if this industry is looking to
    bolster its numbers and overall skills/experiences,  it would not
    hurt to send some of those entry level cloud/network job ad's or
    intern positions you have to your local university(most uni's have
    job shop/intern areas that work with current students to help them
    move into the workforce or get a mandatory internship.) that offers
    courses that your business specializes in, and gives those students
    who are nearing the end of there degree, 1. get a foot in the
    door(even if its just a internship), 2. If it is in intern position
    and you like there skills & attitude you can always offer
    employment at the end of their term with you and train them in the
    finer detail of the dark arts !!.<br>
    <br>
    Cheers<br>
    Greg<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/05/2016 8:37 AM, Skeeve Stevens
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      <div dir="ltr">Most people are having trouble at the moment.
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        <div>It is an interesting time that I've spoken about at
          Commsday events, talking about the void of skills in certain
          areas:</div>
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        <div>- Cloud specialisation and experience (AWS, Azure, Google
          Compute)</div>
        <div>- DevOps skills - Ansible, Puppet, Chef - with deployment
          experience</div>
        <div>- Network (Cisco/Juniper/etc) + Linux + NetDevOps
          experience</div>
        <div>- Anyone with actual experience on SDN</div>
        <div>- IoT infrastructure experience - even using the AWS/Azure
          tools</div>
        <div>- Languages like Golang</div>
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        <div>It isn't that the people don't exist, they are just
          extremely rare right now with most Network Engineers not
          having started, or only just starting their DevOps journey.</div>
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        <div>Employers are aware of the need... but there is no pool of
          available talent for the number of jobs out there.  I've been
          doing some consulting for a couple of tech recruitment firms
          advising them how to talk to their customers about the need to
          take someone with 'certain' skills and grow them in the right
          direction as opposed to pre-built people with experience.</div>
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        <div>Right now I've seen jobs posted, and literally zero
          applications for 100k jobs.  I think we're in a new era where
          the certification market hasn't entered yet, so there is no
          body of even offshore resource pool with the right skills.</div>
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        <div>Those who re/up skill now will be the most valuable in the
          market... especially good network engineers who learn Linux
          and how to code... that is gold.</div>
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                                <div><b
                                    style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve
                                    Stevens - Founder & The
                                    Architect</b><span
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                                    eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
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                                    style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Email: </span><a
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style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a></a><span
style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> ; Web: </span><a
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                                    style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Cell
                                    +61 (0)414 753 383 ; S<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">kype:
                                      skeeve ; </a>LinkedIn: <a
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                                      target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; Expert360: <a
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                                    Keybase: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 8:12 AM,
          Cameron Murray <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <div dir="ltr">Guys,
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              <div>Looking for recommendations for recruiters in
                Brisbane who have experience placing candidates for a
                MSP role.</div>
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              <div>Currently we have 4 - 5 roles and having a difficult
                time filling the positions.</div>
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              <div>Regards</div>
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                  <div>Cameron</div>
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