[AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns

[John Lindsay]

Telstra, Optus and Nextgen lobbied the ACCC under threat of High Court action for taking their property without fair compensation.

Later the owners of both Optus and Nextgen discovered what winning cost them.

If you think you want the same thing Telstra wants from the government you don’t understand the issue.

Optus and Nextgen were blindsided by the cost of breaking out their networks at all 121 POIs. They thought it would ensure massive revenue but it actually imposed massive cost on THEM. 

The insanity is there are 66 call collect areas in Australia where carriers interconnect for voice. Only 40 of them are also NBN POIs. It’s as if the lawyers who dreamt up the 121 POIs had no idea about the voice POIs. The ACCC has been very cagey about that issue ever since. 

jsl


> On 25 Jun 2016, at 2:03 PM, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
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> The original plan called for the nbn to have only a few POI for each state. Then someone in the government pointed out that devaluing Telstra a company that has heavy investment not only by super funds but baby boomers was politically and financially not a good move. So we had 100+ poi and growing. Conveniently quite a few are co-located in Telstra facilities. 
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> Look what happened yesterday in the U.K. When the politicians underestimated the boomers. 
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> Matt
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> On 25 Jun 2016, at 11:27 AM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>> This was the only use case for a National Broadband Network that ever made economic sense - building national infrastructure for wholesale backhaul, so that Cairns backhaul connectivity should be no more expensive than Sydney or Melbourne CBD. Sadly, we have instead both Labor and the Libs arguing over who gets to build a monopoly for the consumer final mile. Cart before horse.
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>> Kind regards
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>> Paul Wilkins
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>> On 24 June 2016 at 11:35, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
>> It's 1500km from Cairns to Brisbane. I very much doubt a 1500km Dark fiber run would be $700 a month even in NZ.
>> 
>> Matt
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>> On 24/06/2016 11:17 AM, Tony Wicks wrote:
>>> A Dark Fibre (single strand Site A – exchange – Site B) would cost  $700/mth in NZ, my how the worm has turned…..
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>>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] On Behalf Of Radek Tkaczyk
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>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns
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>>> At $3.5k for a 10/10Mbps service, Telstra Wholesale have to be dreaming...
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>>> Radek
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