<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Telstra, Optus and Nextgen lobbied the ACCC under threat of High Court action for taking their property without fair compensation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Later the owners of both Optus and Nextgen discovered what winning cost them.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you think you want the same thing Telstra wants from the government you don’t understand the issue.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Optus and Nextgen were blindsided by the cost of breaking out their networks at all 121 POIs. They thought it would ensure massive revenue but it actually imposed massive cost on THEM. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The insanity is there are 66 call collect areas in Australia where carriers interconnect for voice. Only 40 of them are also NBN POIs. It’s as if the lawyers who dreamt up the 121 POIs had no idea about the voice POIs. The ACCC has been very cagey about that issue ever since. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 25 Jun 2016, at 2:03 PM, Matt Perkins <<a href="mailto:matt@spectrum.com.au" class="">matt@spectrum.com.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">The original plan called for the nbn to have only a few POI for each state. Then someone in the government pointed out that devaluing Telstra a company that has heavy investment not only by super funds but baby boomers was politically and financially not a good move. So we had 100+ poi and growing. Conveniently quite a few are co-located in Telstra facilities. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Look what happened yesterday in the U.K. When the politicians underestimated the boomers. </div><div class=""> </div><div class="">Matt</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-- </div><div class="">/* Matt Perkins</div><div class=""> Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.</div><div class=""> Office 1300 133 299 <a href="mailto:matt@spectrum.com.au" class="">matt@spectrum.com.au</a></div><div class=""> Fax 1300 133 255 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000</div><div class=""> SIP <a href="mailto:1300137379@sip.spectrum.com.au" class="">1300137379@sip.spectrum.com.au</a></div><div class=""> Google Talk <a href="mailto:MattAPerkins@gmail.com" class="">MattAPerkins@gmail.com</a></div><div class=""> PGP/GNUPG Public Key can be found at <a href="http://pgp.mit.edu/" class="">http://pgp.mit.edu</a></div><div class="">*/</div></div><div class=""><br class="">On 25 Jun 2016, at 11:27 AM, Paul Wilkins <<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" class="">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class="">This was the only use case for a National Broadband Network that ever made economic sense - building national infrastructure for wholesale backhaul, so that Cairns backhaul connectivity should be no more expensive than Sydney or Melbourne CBD. Sadly, we have instead both Labor and the Libs arguing over who gets to build a monopoly for the consumer final mile. Cart before horse.<br class=""><br class=""></div>Kind regards<br class=""><br class=""></div>Paul Wilkins<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 June 2016 at 11:35, Matt Perkins <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:matt@spectrum.com.au" target="_blank" class="">matt@spectrum.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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