[AusNOG] 10GbE Switching Options

[Skeeve Stevens]

As requested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkRqSvsPC2Q


...Skeeve

*Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Laurens Lafebre <laurens at lafebre.me> wrote:

> We looked at Cisco, Juniper, Brocade, Arista, Huawei, Dell and HP for some
> switching needs.
>
> ~Brocade was immediately dismissed as a non-viable long term vendor due to
> a variety of reasons. Their heavy focus on SDN is premature and ODL seems
> to be dying. No ONIE.
>
> ~Juniper doesnt seem very innovative at the moment. Junos was good but is
> very bloated and extremely slow for automation and orchestration
> requirements. OCX is interesting,
>
> ~Cisco is great but the features vs costs is just too high. Their XML
> interface for automation is terrible and their tin is very expensive for no
> valid reason. No ONIE is disappointing.
>
> ~Arista are nice hardware which is reasonably priced but we need a long
> term vendor and they just arent worth taking a chance on right now. No ONIE
> is disappointing.
>
> ~Huawei have some nice kit but no ONIE capable equipment and the
> organisation is still annoying to deal with.
>
> So we're going Dell or HP with Cumulus when we do our refresh. The cost
> savings make it hard to ignore and we already know Linux. It just makes
> sense to give it a go. Skeeves talk at the recent Commsday in Sydney
> (thanks by the way) highlighted the benefits and risks and Ive been doing
> research and it is pretty clear where the industry is going. Skeeve - is
> the talk online somewhere? I wanted a few people to get an overall clearer
> picture of what is happening.
>
> LL
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Claudiu Claudiu <auclaudiu at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> A view from PacketPushers (podcast) on the Cisco v Arista
>>
>> https://packetpushers.net/podcast/podcasts/network-break-93-cisco-v-arista-round-2-network-startups-multiply/
>>
>> Let's not exagerate.
>>
>> On Friday, July 1, 2016, Skeeve Stevens <
>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> THey don't want to.. but will they have much choice.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>> *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>> Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:41 PM, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Arista is making waves in the industry for all the right reason.  I
>>>> don’t use their kit but it’s great to see anyone making quality products.
>>>> Nothing wrong with a little disruption, particularly if it helps the other
>>>> quality vendors reassess their pricing :)
>>>>
>>>> As for selling out to Cisco, couldn’t see that one happening.  Andy
>>>> Bechtolsheim’s done that one before and I can’t imagine him doing it again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> …
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Jul 2016, at 3:01 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
>>>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Look backwards... they've been saying things for how long now?
>>>>
>>>> They can say all they like, but in the end, there is a risk - maybe not
>>>> a big one, because equipment will happily work as it does now.
>>>>
>>>> But that doesn't mean future releases of EOS might lose some features.
>>>> If they have infringed (and I could care less if they have), then they
>>>> won't be able to just do the same thing in another way... that what IP
>>>> protects. So likely it will be a different feature people will have to move
>>>> to - which will mean changes.
>>>>
>>>> Personally I think in the end Arista will disappear, be bought by
>>>> someone - maybe Cisco, gutted, etc... that is the best play for them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...Skeeve
>>>>
>>>> *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks Pty
>>>> Ltd
>>>> Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com
>>>> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve ; LinkedIn: /in/skeeve
>>>> <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile
>>>> <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9> ; Keybase:
>>>> https://keybase.io/skeeve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>
> LL
>
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