[AusNOG] 10GbE Switching Options

[Alex Samad]

Hi

HP - Did you looking at these HPE FlexFabric 5900CP  or only the
cumulus altoline range ?

On 2 July 2016 at 16:20, Laurens Lafebre <laurens at lafebre.me> wrote:
> We looked at Cisco, Juniper, Brocade, Arista, Huawei, Dell and HP for some
> switching needs.
>
> ~Brocade was immediately dismissed as a non-viable long term vendor due to a
> variety of reasons. Their heavy focus on SDN is premature and ODL seems to
> be dying. No ONIE.
>
> ~Juniper doesnt seem very innovative at the moment. Junos was good but is
> very bloated and extremely slow for automation and orchestration
> requirements. OCX is interesting,
>
> ~Cisco is great but the features vs costs is just too high. Their XML
> interface for automation is terrible and their tin is very expensive for no
> valid reason. No ONIE is disappointing.
>
> ~Arista are nice hardware which is reasonably priced but we need a long term
> vendor and they just arent worth taking a chance on right now. No ONIE is
> disappointing.
>
> ~Huawei have some nice kit but no ONIE capable equipment and the
> organisation is still annoying to deal with.
>
> So we're going Dell or HP with Cumulus when we do our refresh. The cost
> savings make it hard to ignore and we already know Linux. It just makes
> sense to give it a go. Skeeves talk at the recent Commsday in Sydney (thanks
> by the way) highlighted the benefits and risks and Ive been doing research
> and it is pretty clear where the industry is going. Skeeve - is the talk
> online somewhere? I wanted a few people to get an overall clearer picture of
> what is happening.
>
> LL
>
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Claudiu Claudiu <auclaudiu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> A view from PacketPushers (podcast) on the Cisco v Arista
>>
>> https://packetpushers.net/podcast/podcasts/network-break-93-cisco-v-arista-round-2-network-startups-multiply/
>>
>> Let's not exagerate.
>>
>> On Friday, July 1, 2016, Skeeve Stevens
>> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> THey don't want to.. but will they have much choice.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>> Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>> Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com
>>>
>>> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve ; LinkedIn: /in/skeeve ;
>>> Expert360: Profile ; Keybase: https://keybase.io/skeeve
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:41 PM, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Arista is making waves in the industry for all the right reason.  I
>>>> don’t use their kit but it’s great to see anyone making quality products.
>>>> Nothing wrong with a little disruption, particularly if it helps the other
>>>> quality vendors reassess their pricing :)
>>>>
>>>> As for selling out to Cisco, couldn’t see that one happening.  Andy
>>>> Bechtolsheim’s done that one before and I can’t imagine him doing it again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> …
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1 Jul 2016, at 3:01 PM, Skeeve Stevens
>>>> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Look backwards... they've been saying things for how long now?
>>>>
>>>> They can say all they like, but in the end, there is a risk - maybe not
>>>> a big one, because equipment will happily work as it does now.
>>>>
>>>> But that doesn't mean future releases of EOS might lose some features.
>>>> If they have infringed (and I could care less if they have), then they won't
>>>> be able to just do the same thing in another way... that what IP protects.
>>>> So likely it will be a different feature people will have to move to - which
>>>> will mean changes.
>>>>
>>>> Personally I think in the end Arista will disappear, be bought by
>>>> someone - maybe Cisco, gutted, etc... that is the best play for them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...Skeeve
>>>>
>>>> Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>>> Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com
>>>> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve ; LinkedIn: /in/skeeve ;
>>>> Expert360: Profile ; Keybase: https://keybase.io/skeeve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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