[AusNOG] 10GbE Switching Options

[Laurens Lafebre]

We looked at Cisco, Juniper, Brocade, Arista, Huawei, Dell and HP for some
switching needs.

~Brocade was immediately dismissed as a non-viable long term vendor due to
a variety of reasons. Their heavy focus on SDN is premature and ODL seems
to be dying. No ONIE.

~Juniper doesnt seem very innovative at the moment. Junos was good but is
very bloated and extremely slow for automation and orchestration
requirements. OCX is interesting,

~Cisco is great but the features vs costs is just too high. Their XML
interface for automation is terrible and their tin is very expensive for no
valid reason. No ONIE is disappointing.

~Arista are nice hardware which is reasonably priced but we need a long
term vendor and they just arent worth taking a chance on right now. No ONIE
is disappointing.

~Huawei have some nice kit but no ONIE capable equipment and the
organisation is still annoying to deal with.

So we're going Dell or HP with Cumulus when we do our refresh. The cost
savings make it hard to ignore and we already know Linux. It just makes
sense to give it a go. Skeeves talk at the recent Commsday in Sydney
(thanks by the way) highlighted the benefits and risks and Ive been doing
research and it is pretty clear where the industry is going. Skeeve - is
the talk online somewhere? I wanted a few people to get an overall clearer
picture of what is happening.

LL

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Claudiu Claudiu <auclaudiu at gmail.com> wrote:

> A view from PacketPushers (podcast) on the Cisco v Arista
>
> https://packetpushers.net/podcast/podcasts/network-break-93-cisco-v-arista-round-2-network-startups-multiply/
>
> Let's not exagerate.
>
> On Friday, July 1, 2016, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> THey don't want to.. but will they have much choice.
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>> *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>> Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com
>>
>> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve ; LinkedIn: /in/skeeve
>> <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile
>> <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9> ; Keybase:
>> https://keybase.io/skeeve
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 3:41 PM, David Hughes <david at hughes.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Arista is making waves in the industry for all the right reason.  I
>>> don’t use their kit but it’s great to see anyone making quality products.
>>> Nothing wrong with a little disruption, particularly if it helps the other
>>> quality vendors reassess their pricing :)
>>>
>>> As for selling out to Cisco, couldn’t see that one happening.  Andy
>>> Bechtolsheim’s done that one before and I can’t imagine him doing it again.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> David
>>> …
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Jul 2016, at 3:01 PM, Skeeve Stevens <
>>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Look backwards... they've been saying things for how long now?
>>>
>>> They can say all they like, but in the end, there is a risk - maybe not
>>> a big one, because equipment will happily work as it does now.
>>>
>>> But that doesn't mean future releases of EOS might lose some features.
>>> If they have infringed (and I could care less if they have), then they
>>> won't be able to just do the same thing in another way... that what IP
>>> protects. So likely it will be a different feature people will have to move
>>> to - which will mean changes.
>>>
>>> Personally I think in the end Arista will disappear, be bought by
>>> someone - maybe Cisco, gutted, etc... that is the best play for them.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>> *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>> Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com
>>> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve ; LinkedIn: /in/skeeve
>>> <http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve> ; Expert360: Profile
>>> <https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9> ; Keybase:
>>> https://keybase.io/skeeve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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LL

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