<div dir="ltr">We looked at Cisco, Juniper, Brocade, Arista, Huawei, Dell and HP for some switching needs.<div><br></div><div>~Brocade was immediately dismissed as a non-viable long term vendor due to a variety of reasons. Their heavy focus on SDN is premature and ODL seems to be dying. No ONIE.</div><div><br></div><div>~Juniper doesnt seem very innovative at the moment. Junos was good but is very bloated and extremely slow for automation and orchestration requirements. OCX is interesting, </div><div><br></div><div>~Cisco is great but the features vs costs is just too high. Their XML interface for automation is terrible and their tin is very expensive for no valid reason. No ONIE is disappointing.</div><div><br></div><div>~Arista are nice hardware which is reasonably priced but we need a long term vendor and they just arent worth taking a chance on right now. No ONIE is disappointing.</div><div><br></div><div>~Huawei have some nice kit but no ONIE capable equipment and the organisation is still annoying to deal with.<br><div><br></div><div>So we're going Dell or HP with Cumulus when we do our refresh. The cost savings make it hard to ignore and we already know Linux. It just makes sense to give it a go. Skeeves talk at the recent Commsday in Sydney (thanks by the way) highlighted the benefits and risks and Ive been doing research and it is pretty clear where the industry is going. Skeeve - is the talk online somewhere? I wanted a few people to get an overall clearer picture of what is happening.<br><div><br></div><div>LL</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 4:40 PM, Claudiu Claudiu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:auclaudiu@gmail.com" target="_blank">auclaudiu@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>A view from PacketPushers (podcast) on the Cisco v Arista</div><div><a href="https://packetpushers.net/podcast/podcasts/network-break-93-cisco-v-arista-round-2-network-startups-multiply/" target="_blank">https://packetpushers.net/podcast/podcasts/network-break-93-cisco-v-arista-round-2-network-startups-multiply/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Let's not exagerate. </div><div><br>On Friday, July 1, 2016, Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">THey don't want to.. but will they have much choice.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br>...Skeeve</div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect</b><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Email: </span><a style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"> ; Web: </span><a href="http://eintellegonetworks.com/" style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px" target="_blank">eintellegonetworks.com</a></div><div><p style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px;margin:0px">Cell <a href="tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383" value="+61414753383" target="_blank">+61 (0)414 753 383</a> ; S<a>kype: skeeve ; </a>LinkedIn: <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">/in/skeeve</a> ; Expert360: <a href="https://expert360.com/profile/d54a9" target="_blank">Profile</a> ; Keybase: <a href="https://keybase.io/skeeve" target="_blank">https://keybase.io/skeeve</a></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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