[AusNOG] Internet companies forced to block The Pirate Bay, bittorrent websites in Australia, Federal Court rules

[Bradley Amm]

IP blocks will block Cloudflare.
Didn’t they say it was the ISP choice of how they wanted to implement it

From: James Hodgkinson [mailto:yaleman at ricetek.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2016 9:56 AM
To: Damien Gardner Jnr; Bradley Amm
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Internet companies forced to block The Pirate Bay, bittorrent websites in Australia, Federal Court rules

The court said to one or more of DNS or IP block, the wording was pretty vague.

James


On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, at 11:43, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
Didn't the court order specifically say they were to do DNS blocking?  Why are there articles suggesting they are going to block cloudflare?  Just for shock value?

On 20 December 2016 at 12:42, Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com<mailto:brad at bradleyamm.com>> wrote:

https://www.playerattack.com/news/2016/12/16/92893/aussie-pirate-bay-ban-massive-collateral-damage/





From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] On Behalf Of Jay Dixon
Sent: Monday, 19 December 2016 7:23 AM
To: Chris Ford

Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Internet companies forced to block The Pirate Bay, bittorrent websites in Australia, Federal Court rules





i love that the byproduct of this court case is a comprehensive list of all the good torrent sites and mirrors.



On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Chris Ford <chris.ford at inaboxgroup.com.au<mailto:chris.ford at inaboxgroup.com.au>> wrote:
I've been following this here https://s115a.com/cases/current

From my skim of the lists the respondents to the actions all roll up to Telstra, Optus, Vocus or TPG). I didn't see any independent ISPs listed. So unless you are a group company of the Big 4 you won’t be a recipient of the orders, and if you are, I'm sure you are already well aware of what is going on.


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From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] On Behalf Of Mark Newton
Sent: Friday, 16 December 2016 2:41 PM
To: Ross Wheeler <ausnog at rossw.net<mailto:ausnog at rossw.net>>
Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Internet companies forced to block The Pirate Bay, bittorrent websites in Australia, Federal Court rules
On Dec 15, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Ross Wheeler <ausnog at rossw.net<mailto:ausnog at rossw.net>> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2016, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
>
>> The Federal Court has ordered internet companies to block five copyright-infringing websites, including torrent website The Pirate Bay.
>
> So, the next questions are:
> * who tells us ISPs officially, what we have to block?

A court order.

> * when do they tell us.

After you have been named as a respondent in a Federal Court action, and been presented with an order.

> * does it only apply to the big-few, or everyone?

It applies to everyone who is named as a respondent in a Federal Court action under s115a and has subsequently received a court order.

> * if the previous answer is "everyone", who do we bill,
>   and do we have to "trust them" that it'll be paid, or can
>   we just send them the bill and not do anything until it is?

The previous answer isn’t “everyone.” You bill the claimant. The payment conditions will be in the court order.

> The phrase "tilting at windmills" springs to mind.

Yes, pointless exercise. Training Australians to use evasion methods; once they’re doing that, further enforcement action is ineffective, so driving them in that direction is practically indistinguishable from saying, “Meh, don’t care anymore.”

The overwhelming response I’ve seen to yesterday’s action is, “LOL.” I’m encouraged by that.

   - mark


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