[AusNOG] Internet companies forced to block The Pirate Bay, bittorrent websites in Australia, Federal Court rules

[James Hodgkinson]

The court said to one or more of DNS or IP block, the wording was
pretty vague.


James





On Tue, 20 Dec 2016, at 11:43, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:

> Didn't the court order specifically say they were to do DNS blocking?
> Why are there articles suggesting they are going to block cloudflare?
> Just for shock value?
> 

> On 20 December 2016 at 12:42, Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com> wrote:
>> https://www.playerattack.com/news/2016/12/16/92893/aussie-pirate-bay-ban-massive-collateral-damage/____
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>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of
>> *Jay Dixon *Sent:* Monday, 19 December 2016 7:23 AM *To:* Chris Ford
>> 

>> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net

>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Internet companies forced to block The Pirate
>> Bay, bittorrent websites in Australia, Federal Court rules____
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>> i love that the byproduct of this court case is a comprehensive list
>> of all the good torrent sites and mirrors.____
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>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:13 AM, Chris Ford
>> <chris.ford at inaboxgroup.com.au> wrote:____
>> I've been following this here  https://s115a.com/cases/current

>> 

>>  From my skim of the lists the respondents to the actions all roll up
>>  to Telstra, Optus, Vocus or TPG). I didn't see any independent ISPs
>>  listed. So unless you are a group company of the Big 4 you won’t be
>>  a recipient of the orders, and if you are, I'm sure you are already
>>  well aware of what is going on.
>> 

>> 

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
>> Mark Newton
>> Sent: Friday, 16 December 2016 2:41 PM

>> To: Ross Wheeler <ausnog at rossw.net>

>> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net

>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Internet companies forced to block The Pirate
>> Bay, bittorrent websites in Australia, Federal Court rules____
>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Ross Wheeler <ausnog at rossw.net> wrote:

>>  >

>>  > On Thu, 15 Dec 2016, Nathan Brookfield wrote:

>>  >

>>  >> The Federal Court has ordered internet companies to block five
>>  >> copyright-infringing websites, including torrent website The
>>  >> Pirate Bay.
>>  >

>>  > So, the next questions are:

>>  > * who tells us ISPs officially, what we have to block?

>> 

>>  A court order.

>> 

>>  > * when do they tell us.

>> 

>>  After you have been named as a respondent in a Federal Court action,
>>  and been presented with an order.
>> 

>>  > * does it only apply to the big-few, or everyone?

>> 

>>  It applies to everyone who is named as a respondent in a Federal
>>  Court action under s115a and has subsequently received a court
>>  order.
>> 

>>  > * if the previous answer is "everyone", who do we bill,

>>  >   and do we have to "trust them" that it'll be paid, or can

>>  >   we just send them the bill and not do anything until it is?

>> 

>>  The previous answer isn’t “everyone.” You bill the claimant. The
>>  payment conditions will be in the court order.
>> 

>>  > The phrase "tilting at windmills" springs to mind.

>> 

>>  Yes, pointless exercise. Training Australians to use evasion
>>  methods; once they’re doing that, further enforcement action is
>>  ineffective, so driving them in that direction is practically
>>  indistinguishable from saying, “Meh, don’t care anymore.”
>> 

>>  The overwhelming response I’ve seen to yesterday’s action is, “LOL.”
>>  I’m encouraged by that.
>> 

>>     - mark

>> 

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