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[Paul Brooks]

Bringing this back to the real world, seems like another perfect case example for DTN
- Delay/Disruption Tolerant Networking - rfc4838
<https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4838>,rfc5050 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5050>


On 3/09/2015 5:32 PM, Mark Smith wrote:
> On 3 September 2015 at 17:17, Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au> wrote:
>> If I use hungry eagles instead, will I be:
>> (a) non-compliant with the RFC
>> (b) offering a lower-latency service
>> (c) subject to ACCC investigation when other's links mysteriously fail
>> (d) all of the above
>>
> So if pigeon loss is too high, it might be necessary to resort to a
> more reliable link layer, taking into account BCP 89/RFC 3819's advice
> ("Advice for Internet Subnetwork Designers"),
>
> "Error recovery in the subnetwork is therefore
>    justifiable only to the extent that it can enhance overall
>    performance.  It is important to recognize that a subnetwork can go
>    too far in attempting to provide error recovery services in the
>    Internet environment.  Subnet reliability should be "lightweight",
>    i.e., it only has to be "good enough", *not* perfect."
>
> and resort to a tank link-layer.
>
> RFC 1217, "Memo from the Consortium for Slow Commotion Research (CSCR)"
>
> "  This system uses a highly redundant optical communication technique
>    to achieve ultra-low, ultra-robust transmission.  The basic unit is
>    the M1A1 tank.  Each tank is labelled with the number 0 or 1 painted
>    four feet high on the tank turret in yellow, day-glo luminescent
>    paint."
>
>
>> On 3/09/2015 4:32 PM, Jim Woodward wrote:
>>
>> It's all good in theory until your network delivery team calls in with bird
>> flu :)
>>
>> On 3/09/2015 3:20 PM, Purdon, Bob wrote:
>>
>>> So I reckon you'd be on solid ground if you used RFC1149.
>> I recall that PIPE Networks did a trial of RFC1149 some time ago from the
>> 127 Creek St office.  Wasn't terribly successful :-)
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhjn8kbFe74
>>
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