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[Skeeve Stevens]

Hi Mark - Is a Carriers License necessary?  If the customer did it
themselves... or basically paid for it, it shouldn't be needed as it is a
private link.

Even if it is... you could get someone to do an NCD for it... not common,
but possible.

But... personally, if it was that close, I would do a gig wireless link ask
the DC for roof access... would be the most flexible way.


...Skeeve


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On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org> wrote:

> On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:59 PM, James Cunningham <jjazza26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Normally we would do this via Pipe/AAPT/Vocus etc, but given it’s so
> close, what would be involved in getting our own contractors to run the
> fibre and renting duct space for a 6 core fibre cable?
>
>
> You’ll need:
>
>  - A carrier license.
>  - An agreement with someone to lease you some duct space.
>  - Subduct for your cable.
>  - Agreement from Pipe to run cable into their facility.
>  - Agreement from the building owners at each end to enter the building,
> use the comms risers, etc.
>  - Contractors with enough insurance coverage to make sure you’re not
> holding the can when the building burns down because they haven’t
> reinstated firestop in the riser properly, who can give you OTDR reports so
> you can see which cores have the dodgy splices before you try to put
> traffic on them.
>  - Knowledge of the use and interpretation of OTDR reports.
>  - Registration with “Dial Before You Dig."
>  - A cross-connect from Pipe between your rack and the demarc location
> they specify for termination of your cable.
>
> Probably other stuff I’ve forgotten.
>
> Or is this really a “too hard basket” and we should just go to Pipe or
> Vocus and have them do it?
>
>
> It depends on what you want your business to be.
>
> If you want to play in the retailer space, buy wholesale services, package
> them, add margin, sell them to your customers. You don’t need any
> significant infrastructure, and can keep doing it indefinitely until your
> customer switches to Telstra (perhaps with a brief stop-over on TPG).
>
> If you want to play in the infrastructure provider space, then you need to
> operate infrastructure. The first few times will be unprofitably expensive
> learning experiences, and your competitors all have the benefit of scale,
> but you’ll get better at it. If you can build yourself a first-mover
> advantage on some profitable cable routes, you might be able to eke out a
> survivable (or even livable) niche.
>
> Or maybe it’s too late for anyone else to do that in Australia. Dunno.
>
>   - mark
>
>
>
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