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[Giles Pollock]

Maybe a use case for Free Space Optical gear?

On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 12:47 AM, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at theispguy.com
> wrote:

> Hi Mark - Is a Carriers License necessary?  If the customer did it
> themselves... or basically paid for it, it shouldn't be needed as it is a
> private link.
>
> Even if it is... you could get someone to do an NCD for it... not common,
> but possible.
>
> But... personally, if it was that close, I would do a gig wireless link
> ask the DC for roof access... would be the most flexible way.
>
>
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> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 2, 2015, at 9:59 PM, James Cunningham <jjazza26 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Normally we would do this via Pipe/AAPT/Vocus etc, but given it’s so
>> close, what would be involved in getting our own contractors to run the
>> fibre and renting duct space for a 6 core fibre cable?
>>
>>
>> You’ll need:
>>
>>  - A carrier license.
>>  - An agreement with someone to lease you some duct space.
>>  - Subduct for your cable.
>>  - Agreement from Pipe to run cable into their facility.
>>  - Agreement from the building owners at each end to enter the building,
>> use the comms risers, etc.
>>  - Contractors with enough insurance coverage to make sure you’re not
>> holding the can when the building burns down because they haven’t
>> reinstated firestop in the riser properly, who can give you OTDR reports so
>> you can see which cores have the dodgy splices before you try to put
>> traffic on them.
>>  - Knowledge of the use and interpretation of OTDR reports.
>>  - Registration with “Dial Before You Dig."
>>  - A cross-connect from Pipe between your rack and the demarc location
>> they specify for termination of your cable.
>>
>> Probably other stuff I’ve forgotten.
>>
>> Or is this really a “too hard basket” and we should just go to Pipe or
>> Vocus and have them do it?
>>
>>
>> It depends on what you want your business to be.
>>
>> If you want to play in the retailer space, buy wholesale services,
>> package them, add margin, sell them to your customers. You don’t need any
>> significant infrastructure, and can keep doing it indefinitely until your
>> customer switches to Telstra (perhaps with a brief stop-over on TPG).
>>
>> If you want to play in the infrastructure provider space, then you need
>> to operate infrastructure. The first few times will be unprofitably
>> expensive learning experiences, and your competitors all have the benefit
>> of scale, but you’ll get better at it. If you can build yourself a
>> first-mover advantage on some profitable cable routes, you might be able to
>> eke out a survivable (or even livable) niche.
>>
>> Or maybe it’s too late for anyone else to do that in Australia. Dunno.
>>
>>   - mark
>>
>>
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