[AusNOG] Data retention

[Robert Hudson]

On 13 October 2015 at 10:00, Mister Pink <misterpink at gmail.com> wrote:

> 'privacy advocate' is a lofty term for people who just want to torrent
> without wanting Dallas Buyers Club letters.
>

Yeah, no.  I advocate privacy, I've never downloaded movies/songs/etc
"illegally".


> I'm not judging those people, but using a VPN in reaction to the data
> retention laws for the most part belies the problem they are trying to
> solve, and calling that 'Privacy' pollutes the term for people with more
> legitimate causes.
>

So, if I, in principle, disagree with the government mandating that my ISP
keep data on me which can be used to put together some very interesting
facts on my private life that my ISP/the government/whoever manages to
obtain the data has no right i knowing, and decide to take steps to keep
that personal data private, that's diluting the term?

I respectfully disagree.

In effect (unless you roll your own) it means you trust a cheap vpn
> provider in a random country more than your own Gov't?  and if your VPN
> provider of choice isn't already selling your data to data brokers, they
> probably will be soon.
>

As per any service provider, you should make your judgement on more than
just price.



> If you absolutely want privacy on the internet, then you need anonymity,
> and for that I would recommend TOR rather than a vpn, or if you are really
> paranoid, TOR over a VPN from Mcdonalds Wifi with a Linux ISO on a
> thumbdrive from a disposable laptop, but then you're not downloading pirate
> movies.
>

The privacy/anonimity of TOR is known to have been broken a while ago.
Sorry.


> Lets agree on this list to call a spade a spade, and not concede moral
> high ground to people who may not deserve it...
>

Sure, there are people who use VPNs to do stuff that they shouldn't be
doing.  But that doesn't make everyone who uses a VPN guilty of being party
to those activities.
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