[AusNOG] load balancing ADSl connections

[Andrew Cox]

It's possible to do this end to end over the 'public' internet and I know
of providers who've done this going back 15~ years for various reasons

Provided the T&C's don't prohibit you from doing so, consider the cost of X
unlimited ADSL tails through a 3rd party provider, bonded together back to
an aggregation point in your DC.
Dependent on the provider, the traffic from these sites could easily reach
you via peering (minimal additional cost on top of the tail cost itself)
then pass out via your own transit to the internet.

Net result: So long as the chosen provider doesn't oversubscribe and the
lines aren't terribly jittery, you get a link that's up to 90% of the
capacity of the ADSL tails themselves that's moderately fault tolerant and
the customer is able to be allocated IP addressing from your company.

Whether you should actually do this or not is another question... but it is
possible.

 - Andrew Cox

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:

> It is completely possible to bond ADSL and use as backhaul while building
> customer base. Obviously - you could run into congestion fast though.
> Depends how you sell your wireless product (1-10mbps or 5-50mbps etc).
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> Have you had a look to see if any EoC providers are available in the area?
> These still use the copper pairs from the exchange, and so can generally
> cost a lot less to get started with some decent bandwidth (much better than
> the commitment costs of fiber optic). You might also have some luck looking
> for some premium microwave / fixed wireless providers to do the higher
> bandwidth backhaul.
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> For ADSL bonding - the most luck I've had is using individual connections,
> with a tunnel over each to a familiar endpoint in the DC, with some form of
> bonding placed on the tunnels, in my use cases specifically, Mikrotik's
> proprietary balance-rr bonding over their EoIP tunnels. MLPPP I've had
> little success with, not to say it can't work though.
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> On 04/11/15 06:41, Jock Graham wrote:
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> *Hi All,*
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> *Am new to this group but would really like some advice on the legalities
> of load balancing multiple ADSL connections to supply a rural wireless
> network with fast broadband. Are you able to onsell connections to this
> kind of network if the adsl lines are the primary backhaul? It seems to be
> the cheapest alternative when you only have a few clients on the wireless
> network, but unsure what this means legally.*
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> *Other alternatives where to buy ip transit ADSL lines to a data centre
> and bond connections then have access through a layer 2 provider, but found
> its very expensive for the limited bandwidth. *
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> *We have a wireless networks over 20 km with multipoint connections for
> the rural community and really want the lowest cost backhaul, with the best
> throughput which seems ADSL load balacing but just concerned about the
> legalities of this with major providers (Telstra, Optus, AAPT). Are there
> any providers that allow this to occur?*
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> *Regards*
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> *Jock*
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> *Jock at eulonga.com.au <Jock at eulonga.com.au>*
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