<div dir="ltr">It's possible to do this end to end over the 'public' internet and I know of providers who've done this going back 15~ years for various reasons<br><div><br></div><div>Provided the T&C's don't prohibit you from doing so, consider the cost of X unlimited ADSL tails through a 3rd party provider, bonded together back to an aggregation point in your DC. </div><div>Dependent on the provider, the traffic from these sites could easily reach you via peering (minimal additional cost on top of the tail cost itself) then pass out via your own transit to the internet.<br><br>Net result: So long as the chosen provider doesn't oversubscribe and the lines aren't terribly jittery, you get a link that's up to 90% of the capacity of the ADSL tails themselves that's moderately fault tolerant and the customer is able to be allocated IP addressing from your company.<br><br>Whether you should actually do this or not is another question... but it is possible.</div><div><br></div><div> - Andrew Cox</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Joseph Goldman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe@apcs.com.au" target="_blank">joe@apcs.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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It is completely possible to bond ADSL and use as backhaul while
building customer base. Obviously - you could run into congestion
fast though. Depends how you sell your wireless product (1-10mbps or
5-50mbps etc).<br>
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Have you had a look to see if any EoC providers are available in the
area? These still use the copper pairs from the exchange, and so can
generally cost a lot less to get started with some decent bandwidth
(much better than the commitment costs of fiber optic). You might
also have some luck looking for some premium microwave / fixed
wireless providers to do the higher bandwidth backhaul.<br>
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For ADSL bonding - the most luck I've had is using individual
connections, with a tunnel over each to a familiar endpoint in the
DC, with some form of bonding placed on the tunnels, in my use cases
specifically, Mikrotik's proprietary balance-rr bonding over their
EoIP tunnels. MLPPP I've had little success with, not to say it
can't work though.<div><div class="h5"><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Hi
All,<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Am
new to this group but would really like some advice on the
legalities of load balancing multiple ADSL connections to
supply a rural wireless network with fast broadband. Are
you able to onsell connections to this kind of network if
the adsl lines are the primary backhaul? It seems to be
the cheapest alternative when you only have a few clients
on the wireless network, but unsure what this means
legally.<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Other
alternatives where to buy ip transit ADSL lines to a data
centre and bond connections then have access through a
layer 2 provider, but found its very expensive for the
limited bandwidth. <u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>We
have a wireless networks over 20 km with multipoint
connections for the rural community and really want the
lowest cost backhaul, with the best throughput which seems
ADSL load balacing but just concerned about the legalities
of this with major providers (Telstra, Optus, AAPT). Are
there any providers that allow this to occur?<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Regards<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Jock<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span><a href="mailto:Jock@eulonga.com.au" target="_blank">Jock@eulonga.com.au</a><u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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