[AusNOG] IPv6

[Nick Stallman]

Well Chrome is going full steam ahead with a very aggressive SSL policy.
Who knows if they'll do it for IPv6 next?

If it is worth anything, this thread has actually gotten me to look at 
using our IPv6 allocation.
Our few thousand domains might be a drop in the ocean but every bit 
helps. :)

On 31/03/15 16:04, Joseph Goldman wrote:
> On the flip side - all it would take would be either Google or 
> Facebook or <other massive service> to announce they are going IPv6 
> only in x months and uptake would be pretty quick, but no one with 
> commercial interests would ever do that, and anything with 
> non-commercial interests is too small to make that dent.
>
> On 31/03/15 15:59, Greg Anderson wrote:
>> I disagree with your statement, and I think that is because I don't 
>> really consider this a change in state the same way you do.
>>
>> If we were talking colour, you would be saying we start at black, 
>> progress through grey and end up at white.
>>
>> I see it as to seperate environments completely (as they are intended 
>> to be deployed dual stack).
>>
>> One is black, and there is a lot of it (IPv4)
>> One is white, and there is less of it (IPv6)
>>
>> In either of these, their state will change independently, but only 
>> directly in relation to itself (within reason).  They may influence 
>> each other, but at this stage, and for the foreseeable future, IPv4 
>> is not going anywhere.  Hack jobs like CGNAT are going to keep 
>> extending its life, despite their drawbacks.
>>
>> So maybe I am just clueless, but really the state change will be with 
>> IPv6 until it is ubiquitous, and only once that happens is there 
>> likely to be a state change in IPv4 (removal).  That will start to 
>> occur the day someone does a test by pulling down the IPv4 network 
>> and testing, whilst finding no detrimental changes.
>>
>> On 31 March 2015 at 14:40, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Please don't regard this as trolling, but there is not going to
>>     be, and cannot be, a gradual transition to IPv6. Consider this a
>>     state problem, where the current state is ipv4, and we want to
>>     move to ipv6. We can only make the transition when the marginal
>>     utility of ipv6 is greater than for ipv4, ie. dU/d$(ipv6) >
>>     dU/d$(ipv4) for users, carriers, and content providers. This will
>>     only happen with a forcing change. For the foreseable future, the
>>     lack of entropy precludes any transition from ipv4.
>>
>>     Paul Wilkins
>>
>>     On 31 March 2015 at 13:45, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com
>>     <mailto:dave at bevhost.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Mark ZZZ Smith
>>         <markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au
>>         <mailto:markzzzsmith at yahoo.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>>             When was that?
>>
>>         about two years ago.
>>
>>             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>             *From:* David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com
>>             <mailto:dave at bevhost.com>>
>>             I hosted several sites on dual stack servers for some time,
>>
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