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    Well Chrome is going full steam ahead with a very aggressive SSL
    policy.<br>
    Who knows if they'll do it for IPv6 next?<br>
    <br>
    If it is worth anything, this thread has actually gotten me to look
    at using our IPv6 allocation.<br>
    Our few thousand domains might be a drop in the ocean but every bit
    helps. :)<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/03/15 16:04, Joseph Goldman
      wrote:<br>
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      On the flip side - all it would take would be either Google or
      Facebook or <other massive service> to announce they are
      going IPv6 only in x months and uptake would be pretty quick, but
      no one with commercial interests would ever do that, and anything
      with non-commercial interests is too small to make that dent.<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/03/15 15:59, Greg Anderson
        wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">I disagree with your statement, and I think that
          is because I don't really consider this a change in state the
          same way you do.
          <div><br>
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          <div>If we were talking colour, you would be saying we start
            at black, progress through grey and end up at white.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I see it as to seperate environments completely (as they
            are intended to be deployed dual stack).</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>One is black, and there is a lot of it (IPv4)</div>
          <div>One is white, and there is less of it (IPv6)</div>
          <div><br>
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          <div>In either of these, their state will change
            independently, but only directly in relation to itself
            (within reason).  They may influence each other, but at this
            stage, and for the foreseeable future, IPv4 is not going
            anywhere.  Hack jobs like CGNAT are going to keep extending
            its life, despite their drawbacks.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>So maybe I am just clueless, but really the state change
            will be with IPv6 until it is ubiquitous, and only once that
            happens is there likely to be a state change in IPv4
            (removal).  That will start to occur the day someone does a
            test by pulling down the IPv4 network and testing, whilst
            finding no detrimental changes.</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On 31 March 2015 at 14:40, Paul
            Wilkins <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                <div>Please don't regard this as trolling, but there is
                  not going to be, and cannot be, a gradual transition
                  to IPv6. Consider this a state problem, where the
                  current state is ipv4, and we want to move to ipv6. We
                  can only make the transition when the marginal utility
                  of ipv6 is greater than for ipv4, ie. dU/d$(ipv6) >
                  dU/d$(ipv4) for users, carriers, and content
                  providers. This will only happen with a forcing
                  change. For the foreseable future, the lack of entropy
                  precludes any transition from ipv4.<span
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                <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Paul Wilkins<br>
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                    <div class="h5">On 31 March 2015 at 13:45, David
                      Beveridge <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:dave@bevhost.com" target="_blank">dave@bevhost.com</a>></span>
                      wrote:<br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 31,
                              2015 at 10:53 AM, Mark ZZZ Smith <span
                                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr"><span>When was that?</span></div>
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                              <div>about two years ago. </div>
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                                            <hr size="1"> <font
                                              face="Arial"> <b><span
                                                  style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b>
                                              David Beveridge <<a
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                                                href="mailto:dave@bevhost.com"
                                                target="_blank">dave@bevhost.com</a>><br>
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                                                      <div>I hosted
                                                        several sites on
                                                        dual stack
                                                        servers for some
                                                        time, </div>
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