[AusNOG] : Re: Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise

[Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral]

Agreed.
  

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 From: "Paul Jones" <paul at pauljones.id.au>
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] SPAM-MED: Re: Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise   

I would argue that theory is not universally true - Look at the music and move industries in relation to the online world. Their *intentions* were to do what's best for themselves, but I think history shows they were (and still are to some extent) unsuccessful.   

I think the same applies here - I respect people who see the world differently, but I think it's nuts not to be providing dual stack IPV6. It just depends on what people's vision is, and how prepared they like to be for the future. I realise there is only a limited number of hours in the day and business demands quite often get in the way, but having said that, some companies seem to live in a perpetual state of pending chaos! So long as they manage to keep just ahead of the avalanche behind them then everything is right with the world..  

   

   

Paul.  

   

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] SPAM-MED: Re: Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise  

    

Absolutely.  Commercial interests are incentivised by commercial outcomes.  If IPv6 resulted in a commercial outcome to the majority of commercial interests then you would see IPv6 holding a majority over IPv4.  But that isn't the case is it? 

  

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Subject: RE: [AusNOG] SPAM-MED: Re: Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise    

  

Hmm not sure that's absolutely true.  

   

Commercial interests do what's best for them  

   

A  

      

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] SPAM-MED: Re: Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise 

    

If the customers needed it then the ISP's would be doing it. 

  

When it is needed every ISP under the sun that wants customers will be doing it. 

  

Thats the commercial and actual reality. 

  


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