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<div><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b>From</b>: "Paul Jones" <paul@pauljones.id.au><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:52 PM<br />
<b>To</b>: "kris@cloudcentral.com.au" <kris@cloudcentral.com.au>, "Alex Samad - Yieldbroker" <Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com>, "Damien Gardner Jnr" <rendrag@rendrag.net>, "Mark Andrews" <marka@isc.org><br />
<b>Cc</b>: "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br />
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [AusNOG] SPAM-MED: Re: Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise</span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I would argue that theory is not universally true – Look at the music and move industries in relation to the online world. Their *<b>intentions</b>* were to do what’s best for themselves, but I think history shows they were (and still are to some extent) unsuccessful. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I think the same applies here – I respect people who see the world differently, but I think it’s nuts not to be providing dual stack IPV6. It just depends on what people’s vision is, and how prepared they like to be for the future. I realise there is only a limited number of hours in the day and business demands quite often get in the way, but having said that, some companies seem to live in a perpetual state of pending chaos! So long as they manage to keep just ahead of the avalanche behind them then everything is right with the world….</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Paul.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral<br />
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 26 March 2015 10:34 AM<br />
<b>To:</b> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker; Damien Gardner Jnr; Mark Andrews<br />
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br />
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] SPAM-MED: Re: Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Absolutely. Commercial interests are incentivised by commercial outcomes. If IPv6 resulted in a commercial outcome to the majority of commercial interests then you would see IPv6 holding a majority over IPv4. But that isn't the case is it?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">: "Alex Samad - Yieldbroker" <<a href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:27 AM<br />
<b>To</b>: "<a href="mailto:kris@cloudcentral.com.au">kris@cloudcentral.com.au</a>" <<a href="mailto:kris@cloudcentral.com.au">kris@cloudcentral.com.au</a>>, "Damien Gardner Jnr" <<a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net">rendrag@rendrag.net</a>>, "Mark Andrews" <<a href="mailto:marka@isc.org">marka@isc.org</a>><br />
<b>Cc</b>: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br />
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hmm not sure that’s absolutely true.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Commercial interests do what’s best for them</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral<br />
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 26 March 2015 10:23 AM<br />
<b>To:</b> Damien Gardner Jnr; Mark Andrews<br />
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>; Kristoffer Sheather<br />
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] SPAM-MED: Re: Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">If the customers needed it then the ISP's would be doing it.</span></p>
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