[AusNOG] Telstra Business Internet Fibre Better prices than Telstra Wholesale.. what the ?

[Joseph Goldman]

An argument (weak one though if you ask me) could be made, that 
wholesale services have ultimately 2 service delivery points, the end 
user, and your closest/chosen PoP - this is assuming you want it to use 
your bandwidth, your IP's etc. So Telstra have to guarantee delivery 
between 2 points, where-as if their only responsibility is one point to 
'the internet', then they could hand-off wherever they want (given the 
size of their network), so there is less 'work' and 'maintenance' to the 
connection.

That's how I would see it anyway, but yes still a very frustrating 
situation to be undercut continuously when fighting for contracts.

On 10/12/15 10:48, Nick Evendor wrote:
>
> $400 for 400/400 mbps is cheap for AAPT/TPG but AAPT/TPG do not have a 
> massive fibre foot print like Telstra. The Telstra wholesale price for 
> backhual plus IP transit at $10 a mbps is more than double the price 
> than Telstra Business is offering direct to businesses.
>
> What is the point of Telstra wholesale when Telstra business has now 
> undercut everyone.
>
> Nick
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 10:18:53 +1100
> From: turbo124 at gmail.com
> To: bevan at slattery.net.au
> CC: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra Business Internet Fibre Better prices 
> than Telstra Wholesale.. what the ?
>
> We have a client who went direct with TPG for a 400/400MBit - 
> Unlimited Fibre installed for $400/month.
>
> The premise has existing fibre supplied by AAPT, but even still I 
> thought it was incredibly cheap... Perhaps a sign of things to come?
>
> On 10 December 2015 at 09:58, Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au 
> <mailto:bevan at slattery.net.au>> wrote:
>
>     Yeah.  I've seen it with a Not-for-profit I'm involved with.
>
>     [b]
>
>     On 10 Dec 2015, at 9:55 AM, Cameron Murray
>     <cameron.murray at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.murray at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Unlimited internet transit.
>
>         We have a few customers at the moment comparing it.
>
>         On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Jared Hirst
>         <jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au
>         <mailto:jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au>> wrote:
>
>             Hi Nick,
>
>             Is the Unlimited Data Internet Transit, or just data
>             between the CPE and the Data Centre?
>
>             On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Nick Evendor
>             <nickevendor at outlook.com <mailto:nickevendor at outlook.com>>
>             wrote:
>
>                 A customer of mine approached me to price match a
>                 quote for Telstra business internet fibre which is
>                 very cheap.
>
>                 50/50mbps Telstra Fibre with internet access unlimited
>                 data for $850 + gst
>
>                 100/100mbps Telstra Fibre with internet access
>                 unlimited data for $1100 + gst
>
>                 We resell solutions from a Telstra wholesale re seller
>                 and asked them to match Telstra business pricing and
>                 they said Telstra Wholesale was more expensive before
>                 for the backhaul before even adding on data internet
>                 usage.
>
>                 Has anyone else come across this it would seem Telstra
>                 is now very aggressively providing cheap fibre
>                 internet services.
>
>                 Nick
>
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