[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with added audio

Wed Sep 10 12:57:57 EST 2014

Yep, me too. I think that’s fair and reasonable.

I would be happy to subsidise regional infrastructure investment though.

Please, no banging on about Conroy. What a disaster. If they’d done it right in the first place, progress and a decent solution offering might have been underway today. They were an utter embarrassment.

DM

From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Jared Hirst
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I have a 5mbit DSL at my house. So 100 mbits is a massive improvement.

I would also pay for the fibre IF I needed it

On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, ANSA SERVERS <info at ausnetservers.net.au<mailto:info at ausnetservers.net.au>> wrote:
Jarred,

So your “average” consumer has the fibre money which is wrapped in so much red tap it isn’t funny, everyone wants a dip of the honey pot it is no longer funny.

The idea behind the NBN network was to provide a network that was a level playing field….. is asking for consumers to pay for their own fibre a level playing field? Do consumers run their own copper into their house because they want a VDSL or EOC??

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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with added audio

From that presentation simon says you can order a direct fibre haul to your house? So for the most population 100mbit is fine? Anyone wanting more thhe can haul a fibre in?

On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, ANSA SERVERS <info at ausnetservers.net.au<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info at ausnetservers.net.au');>> wrote:
But Darren, this is tax payer money. Tax payers want the best from
Their money not a half asses "that'll do" attitude
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On 10 Sep 2014, at 12:38 pm, "ANSA SERVERS" <info at ausnetservers.net.au<mailto:info at ausnetservers.net.au>> wrote:
Adam,

Yes 100mb might be fine for now but what about the future, from what I understand this copper in the last mile can only handle 100mb, so in the future it WILL have to be ripped up and replaced with CAT6 ( or better) of direct fibre…… which begs the comment why are they not doing that now

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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with added audio

I think 100mbit will be fine.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/netflix-ceo-says-4k-streaming-will-only-require-15mbps-bandwidth/

and assuming that you are streaming a 4GB movie:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4GB+in+90+minutes

On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:50 am, ANSA SERVERS <info at ausnetservers.net.au<mailto:info at ausnetservers.net.au>> wrote:

Umm my argument mainly is by the time they have finished rolling out there 100mb nbn it WILL BE obsolete

My understanding of the nbn post liberal government was that the nbn was supposed to be a transport network for phone , internet , DTV, foxtel and other networks and applications we havent even thought off

Good luck getting  HDTV to work without buffering with multiple users in a household with 100/xx

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On 10 Sep 2014, at 12:15 pm, "Mark Newton" <newton at atdot.dotat.org<mailto:newton at atdot.dotat.org>> wrote:

On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:18 PM, ANSA SERVERS <info at ausnetservers.net.au<mailto:info at ausnetservers.net.au>> wrote:

FTTN might work for the time being but will have to be replaced with more money out of the tax payers pocket. If the government knew anything about the state of the copper network their research would of told them that the part of the copper network they are keeping is the worst effected part of the network.

This line of argument needs to stop.

FTTN vs FTTH has been discussed ad nauseaum since about 2005.  Telstra first approached the Howard Government about FTTN, the Rudd Government started with FTTN then switched to FTTH.  Now the Abbott Government is doing both.

I think it’s safe to assert that all of the Governments involved in the many different NBNs which have been proposed know exactly what the state of the copper is.

If you believe that the Government would stop proposing networks that use the CAN if only they knew about the state of the CAN, you are wrong.  Stop doing that, it’s making you look silly, and no NBN-related argument has ever been won with that point.

  - mark

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