[AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with added audio

Wed Sep 10 12:52:47 EST 2014

I have a 5mbit DSL at my house. So 100 mbits is a massive improvement.

I would also pay for the fibre IF I needed it

On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, ANSA SERVERS <info at ausnetservers.net.au>
wrote:

>  Jarred,
>
>
>
> So your “average” consumer has the fibre money which is wrapped in so much
> red tap it isn’t funny, everyone wants a dip of the honey pot it is no
> longer funny.
>
>
>
> The idea behind the NBN network was to provide a network that was a level
> playing field….. is asking for consumers to pay for their own fibre a level
> playing field? Do consumers run their own copper into their house because
> they want a VDSL or EOC??
>
>
>
> Regards,
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> *From:* Jared Hirst [mailto:jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au');>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:47 PM
> *To:* ANSA SERVERS
> *Cc:* Adam O'Reilly; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
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> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with
> added audio
>
>
>
> From that presentation simon says you can order a direct fibre haul to
> your house? So for the most population 100mbit is fine? Anyone wanting more
> thhe can haul a fibre in?
>
> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014, ANSA SERVERS <info at ausnetservers.net.au
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','info at ausnetservers.net.au');>> wrote:
>
>  But Darren, this is tax payer money. Tax payers want the best from
>
> Their money not a half asses "that'll do" attitude
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> *Matthew Matters  *Managing Director / CEO of Aus Net Servers Australia
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> On 10 Sep 2014, at 12:38 pm, "ANSA SERVERS" <info at ausnetservers.net.au>
> wrote:
>
>  Adam,
>
>
>
> Yes 100mb might be fine for now but what about the future, from what I
> understand this copper in the last mile can only handle 100mb, so in the
> future it WILL have to be ripped up and replaced with CAT6 ( or better) of
> direct fibre…… which begs the comment why are they not doing that now
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> *Matthew Matters  *Managing Director / CEO of Aus Net Servers Australia
> Pty Ltd
> Management Department  |  Small Business Hosting Sales & Services  |  Aus
> Net Servers Australia Pty Ltd
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> *From:* Adam O'Reilly [mailto:adam at oreilly.bz]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:37 PM
> *To:* ANSA SERVERS
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Simon Hackett's slide deck from AusNOG 2014 with
> added audio
>
>
>
> I think 100mbit will be fine.
>
>
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> http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/netflix-ceo-says-4k-streaming-will-only-require-15mbps-bandwidth/
>
>
>
> and assuming that you are streaming a 4GB movie:
>
>
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> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4GB+in+90+minutes
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> On 10 Sep 2014, at 11:50 am, ANSA SERVERS <info at ausnetservers.net.au>
> wrote:
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>  Umm my argument mainly is by the time they have finished rolling out
> there 100mb nbn it WILL BE obsolete
>
> My understanding of the nbn post liberal government was that the nbn was
> supposed to be a transport network for phone , internet , DTV, foxtel and
> other networks and applications we havent even thought off
>
>
>
> Good luck getting  HDTV to work without buffering with multiple users in a
> household with 100/xx
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> *Matthew Matters  *Managing Director / CEO of Aus Net Servers Australia
> Pty Ltd
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> On 10 Sep 2014, at 12:15 pm, "Mark Newton" <newton at atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
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> On Sep 8, 2014, at 5:18 PM, ANSA SERVERS <info at ausnetservers.net.au>
> wrote:
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>
>
> FTTN might work for the time being but will have to be replaced with more
> money out of the tax payers pocket. If the government knew anything about
> the state of the copper network their research would of told them that the
> part of the copper network they are keeping is the worst effected part of
> the network.
>
>
>
> This line of argument needs to stop.
>
>
>
> FTTN vs FTTH has been discussed ad nauseaum since about 2005.  Telstra
> first approached the Howard Government about FTTN, the Rudd Government
> started with FTTN then switched to FTTH.  Now the Abbott Government is
> doing both.
>
>
>
> I think it’s safe to assert that *all* of the Governments involved in the
> many different NBNs which have been proposed know exactly what the state of
> the copper is.
>
>
>
> If you believe that the Government would stop proposing networks that use
> the CAN if only they knew about the state of the CAN, *you are wrong.*
> Stop doing that, it’s making you look silly, and no NBN-related argument
> has ever been won with that point.
>
>
>
>   - mark
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