[AusNOG] Metadata retention... it's now (almost) a thing

[Noel Butler]

pffft 

anyone who is going to do something stupid is hardly going to use a
provider supplied email, and recommending they use gmail or hotmail
shows you dont care about their users privacy, you only care about your
part in responsibility. 

I think there are way too many paranoid people here, its almost like,
the writers of "millenium" should read the archives of this list for a
great comeback series :) 

On 30/10/2014 16:58, Skeeve Stevens wrote: 

> I'd love to know what is meant by SMTP. 
> 
> For new providers I'm building these days my recommendation is to do NO mail. Consumers can go to gmail/hotmail/etc... and businesses run their own. 
> 
> If I ran an SMTP relay for customers, I would tell customers not to use it... so there would be no record. 
> 
> Business should setup a $10 per month AWS instance in the US or Japan and relay email through that. 
> 
> My opinion is that if we don't offer the service, we can't actually log it or give the information over. 
> 
> On the other hand.. if they are asking us to intercept traffic to figure this stuff out... then I'd think there would be a much bigger problem. 
> 
> ...Skeeve 
> 
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> On 30 October 2014 11:54, David Beveridge <dave at bevhost.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't know why you're so upset about this. 
> They're only asking you to keep radius and smtp logs. 
> It's not like you're being asked to keep two years worth of netflow history. 
> 
> dave 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Paul Julian <paul at oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote:
> 
> This is total bullshit, these people just have no clue, is there nothing we can do as a community to try and stop this nonsense ? 
> 
> I can just see the $$$$ now..... 
> 
> Regards 
> 
> Paul 
> 
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