[AusNOG] TPG Peering

[Nathan Sullivan]

Being you said its 500Mbit of traffic from You -> TPG, and you can probably
control which IX fabric to feed it into, can you just feed it into another
state where TPG isnt so congested...? Obviously far from ideal.... but
20~ms of latency is probably more preferably than link congestion... yea?

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jared Hirst <
jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:

> Yeah the issue is that there is a multi level of complaints flooding in,
> sure we can route around it to say Vocus or someone BUT they would then try
> and just push it back through their PIPE peering to TPG.... so I am paying
> for it to go via a transit provider to only have it sent back into the PIPE
> peering.
>
> I am sure we can make some communities and traffic magic happen, but
> that's all pointless when I am paying TPG for their PIPE peering port? So
> why should I be penalised by them having a congested port when I am paying
> to send them traffic anyway?
>
> Regardless of the costs here, I just need to get the issues resolved, I
> have so many complaints and customers are generally un-happy, they simply
> blame us for everything.
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>>  What's even more interesting is that Jared wants to resolve a problem
>>> for - who exactly ? Does it end up being that he's a content provider and
>>> thus the eyeballs in question (gaming or otherwise) are worth $$ to him ?
>>> In which case the discussion heads in a particular direction.  Or are the
>>> users in question not actually his users (they're TPG's) and at which point
>>> why would you care (business wise - I understand why everyone cares from a
>>> good 'net perspective).  Isn't this the marketplace at work ?
>>>
>>
>> The answers to whose customers...everyones, really.
>>
>>  You have the EU -> ISP arrangement, the EU -> Content Owner arrangement,
>> and Content Owner -> Content Hoster [SAU in this case].
>>
>>
>>  The EU would get the blame game from ISP to Content Owner, Content Owner
>> would receive the complaint and likely forward to Content Hoster, Content
>> Hoster has identified the problem as a TPG ingress point, something he has
>> no control over, so has no choice but to blame it back to TPG.
>>
>>  To his credit, he is actually trying to resolve the issue directly to
>> stop the viscous cycle of blame.
>>
>>  It's a hard spot to be in.
>>
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