[AusNOG] TPG Peering

Geordie Guy elomis at gmail.com
Wed Oct 22 08:31:27 EST 2014


Literally nobody chooses TPG for any reason other than price or because
they were a customer of another AAPT acquisition and got shunted.  You can
rank them on whatever you like but customers who are solely interested in
$14.95 a month¹ unlimited² with home phone so nanna can call, and a free
wifis are going to keep giving them a customer base that means they can
keep being awful.
On 21/10/2014 9:40 PM, "Chris Gibbs" <chris.gibbs at serversaustralia.com.au>
wrote:

> maybe its time to start suggesting to website administrators to implement
> a Neflix style ISP ranking......
>
> http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/
>
> At least then TPG end users would be aware of issues. Maybe even kick TPG
> into gear as it could potentially impact their bottomline.
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Ben Cooper <ben at zeno.io> wrote:
>
>> They are here,
>>
>> As they have replied to me off list a number of times...
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Peter Betyounan <
>> peter at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> My guess is they just haven't taken a recent look at their NSW PIPE
>>> 20Gbe peering port mrtg graphs to see the ceiling being hit for the 4-5
>>> hours. Curious, has any TGP network reps ever posted here before? /me being
>>> lazy to search history
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Nathan Brookfield <
>>> Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I honestly don't think they care about congestion impacting there
>>>> customers :( Unless it saves them money, no care in the world!
>>>>
>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>> Nathan Brookfield
>>>>
>>>> Chief Executive Officer
>>>> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>>>>
>>>>  Web: http://simtronic.com.au
>>>> Phone: 1300 592 330
>>>> Fax: (02) 4749 4950
>>>>
>>>> On 21 Oct 2014, at 20:42, Jared Hirst <
>>>> jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Because generally they wont direct peer. We are trying to send them
>>>> 500+ mbits though and when it's congested this is causing issues for us and
>>>> their users.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Bob Woolley <boblobsta at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *Why should that be a long shot? *
>>>>> because tpg don't like networking with others
>>>>>
>>>>>  - Bob W
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21 October 2014 18:18, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Jared Hirst <
>>>>>> jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Looking to talk to someone about peering direct with TPG (I know
>>>>>> it's a long shot) but the issue is that everday between 6-9pm we see
>>>>>> congestion to TPG, upon looking at their PIPE port we can see it's maxed at
>>>>>> 20 gbits, and hence this would be causing our issues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Why should that be a long shot? Sounds like precisely the kind of
>>>>>> thing that’d justify a private peering relationship.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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