<p dir="ltr">Literally nobody chooses TPG for any reason other than price or because they were a customer of another AAPT acquisition and got shunted. You can rank them on whatever you like but customers who are solely interested in $14.95 a month¹ unlimited² with home phone so nanna can call, and a free wifis are going to keep giving them a customer base that means they can keep being awful.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 21/10/2014 9:40 PM, "Chris Gibbs" <<a href="mailto:chris.gibbs@serversaustralia.com.au">chris.gibbs@serversaustralia.com.au</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">maybe its time to start suggesting to website administrators to implement a Neflix style ISP ranking......<div><br></div><div><a href="http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/" target="_blank">http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div>At least then TPG end users would be aware of issues. Maybe even kick TPG into gear as it could potentially impact their bottomline.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Ben Cooper <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ben@zeno.io" target="_blank">ben@zeno.io</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">They are here,<div><br></div><div>As they have replied to me off list a number of times...</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Peter Betyounan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peter@serversaustralia.com.au" target="_blank">peter@serversaustralia.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">My guess is they just haven't taken a recent look at their NSW PIPE 20Gbe peering port mrtg graphs to see the ceiling being hit for the 4-5 hours. Curious, has any TGP network reps ever posted here before? /me being lazy to search history<div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div>
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Because generally they wont direct peer. We are trying to send them 500+ mbits though and when it's congested this is causing issues for us and their users.</div>
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we can see it's maxed at 20 gbits, and hence this would be causing our issues.</div>
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