[AusNOG] TPG Peering

Tue Oct 21 22:50:24 EST 2014

Even then people use TPG because they are cheap not because they have a
premium service.

The TPG guys probably know about it and management wants people to be at
least be buying domestic transit to get to TPG users versus paying for a
nice cheap peering port. Hell they're GOF now I guess :P

On Tuesday, October 21, 2014, Trent Farrell <tfarrell at riotgames.com> wrote:

> Brutal way to do things and it doesn't really pay off unless you're the
> size of Netflix (and even then it kinda flopped and they still had to fork
> out big).
>
> TPG are here, and they do peer at that traffic level - you might have to
> set the users loose on them first though if you're not getting a
> satisfactory response.
>
> On Tuesday, October 21, 2014, Chris Gibbs <
> chris.gibbs at serversaustralia.com.au
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','chris.gibbs at serversaustralia.com.au');>>
> wrote:
>
>> maybe its time to start suggesting to website administrators to implement
>> a Neflix style ISP ranking......
>>
>> http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/
>>
>> At least then TPG end users would be aware of issues. Maybe even kick TPG
>> into gear as it could potentially impact their bottomline.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Ben Cooper <ben at zeno.io> wrote:
>>
>>> They are here,
>>>
>>> As they have replied to me off list a number of times...
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Peter Betyounan <
>>> peter at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My guess is they just haven't taken a recent look at their NSW PIPE
>>>> 20Gbe peering port mrtg graphs to see the ceiling being hit for the 4-5
>>>> hours. Curious, has any TGP network reps ever posted here before? /me being
>>>> lazy to search history
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Nathan Brookfield <
>>>> Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I honestly don't think they care about congestion impacting there
>>>>> customers :( Unless it saves them money, no care in the world!
>>>>>
>>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>>> Nathan Brookfield
>>>>>
>>>>> Chief Executive Officer
>>>>> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On 21 Oct 2014, at 20:42, Jared Hirst <
>>>>> jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Because generally they wont direct peer. We are trying to send them
>>>>> 500+ mbits though and when it's congested this is causing issues for us and
>>>>> their users.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Bob Woolley <boblobsta at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Why should that be a long shot? *
>>>>>> because tpg don't like networking with others
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  - Bob W
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21 October 2014 18:18, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Jared Hirst <
>>>>>>> jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Looking to talk to someone about peering direct with TPG (I know
>>>>>>> it's a long shot) but the issue is that everday between 6-9pm we see
>>>>>>> congestion to TPG, upon looking at their PIPE port we can see it's maxed at
>>>>>>> 20 gbits, and hence this would be causing our issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Why should that be a long shot? Sounds like precisely the kind of
>>>>>>> thing that’d justify a private peering relationship.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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