Even then people use TPG because they are cheap not because they have a premium service.<div><br></div><div>The TPG guys probably know about it and management wants people to be at least be buying domestic transit to get to TPG users versus paying for a nice cheap peering port. Hell they're GOF now I guess<span></span> :P<br><br>On Tuesday, October 21, 2014, Trent Farrell <<a href="mailto:tfarrell@riotgames.com">tfarrell@riotgames.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Brutal way to do things and it doesn't really pay off unless you're the size of Netflix (and even then it kinda flopped and they still had to fork out big).<div><br></div><div>TPG are here, and they do peer at that traffic level - you might have to set the users loose on them first though if you're not getting a satisfactory response.</div><div><div><br>On Tuesday, October 21, 2014, Chris Gibbs <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','chris.gibbs@serversaustralia.com.au');" target="_blank">chris.gibbs@serversaustralia.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">maybe its time to start suggesting to website administrators to implement a Neflix style ISP ranking......<div><br></div><div><a href="http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/" target="_blank">http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/</a> <br></div><div><br></div><div>At least then TPG end users would be aware of issues. Maybe even kick TPG into gear as it could potentially impact their bottomline.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Ben Cooper <span dir="ltr"><<a>ben@zeno.io</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">They are here,<div><br></div><div>As they have replied to me off list a number of times...</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Peter Betyounan <span dir="ltr"><<a>peter@serversaustralia.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">My guess is they just haven't taken a recent look at their NSW PIPE 20Gbe peering port mrtg graphs to see the ceiling being hit for the 4-5 hours. Curious, has any TGP network reps ever posted here before? /me being lazy to search history<div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div>
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Because generally they wont direct peer. We are trying to send them 500+ mbits though and when it's congested this is causing issues for us and their users.</div>
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<div>because tpg don't like networking with others
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<div style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">Looking to talk to someone about peering direct with TPG (I know it's a long shot) but the issue is that everday between 6-9pm we see congestion to TPG, upon looking at their PIPE port
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