[AusNOG] Public Internet Access Policies

[Joseph Goldman]

Would the argument more-so go negligence vs actual liability - i.e. if I 
put a open wifi access point in the middle of town, no logging, no 
monitoring, no filtering, and it was used to circulate questionable, 
child endangering, content, then I'd imagine punishments would be much 
harsher than if it was secured by a ToS splash page, some logging and 
category filtering, which the user then circumvented (thus breaking the 
ToS they agreed on) pushing liability back to them, and covering 
yourself for negligence?

I'm not a lawyer by any sense of the meaning so probably completely 
wrong - but that would be my take on it.

On 08/10/14 11:37, Damien Gardner Jnr wrote:
> Re Liability of the provider, I'd be concerned that if you DO make an 
> effort to filter, and then someone manages to get questionable content 
> up (as in porn, not as in the awesome cartoon), whether you are then 
> accepting liability for the person being able to get to that content?
>
>
> On 8 October 2014 11:33, Skeeve Stevens 
> <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com 
> <mailto:skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com>> wrote:
>
>     In my view, Filtering in this scenario is less about what the user
>     can access, but more about the liability on the provider.
>
>     IMHO, Filtering should be mandatory in public access areas. We
>     generally use Juniper SRX's with Websense backend and harsh
>     category selection.
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>     On 8 October 2014 11:05, Andrew Yager <andrew at rwts.com.au
>     <mailto:andrew at rwts.com.au>> wrote:
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>         Hi,
>
>         We’re currently developing a public internet access solution
>         for a public space, and one of the things we’re considering is
>         content filtering as part of the solution.
>
>         Obviously the usual caveats apply around success, ability to
>         circumvent, etc, but given all of these caveats, what are
>         people’s general opinion on:
>
>         - is it a good idea to do this in a public space (think
>         children, families, etc all around)
>         - what sort of filtering have you implemented in the past? We
>         are looking at a solution that would do simple category
>         filtering at the moment, with the option to blacklist and
>         whitelist particular URLs
>         - what sort of categories would you generally block?
>
>         I’m personally of the opinion that it’s a “good idea” in this
>         context although not fool proof.
>
>         Thanks,
>         Andrew
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