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    Would the argument more-so go negligence vs actual liability - i.e.
    if I put a open wifi access point in the middle of town, no logging,
    no monitoring, no filtering, and it was used to circulate
    questionable, child endangering, content, then I'd imagine
    punishments would be much harsher than if it was secured by a ToS
    splash page, some logging and category filtering, which the user
    then circumvented (thus breaking the ToS they agreed on) pushing
    liability back to them, and covering yourself for negligence?<br>
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    I'm not a lawyer by any sense of the meaning so probably completely
    wrong - but that would be my take on it.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/10/14 11:37, Damien Gardner Jnr
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      <div dir="ltr">Re Liability of the provider, I'd be concerned that
        if you DO make an effort to filter, and then someone manages to
        get questionable content up (as in porn, not as in the awesome
        cartoon), whether you are then accepting liability for the
        person being able to get to that content?
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 8 October 2014 11:33, Skeeve Stevens
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            <div dir="ltr">In my view, Filtering in this scenario is
              less about what the user can access, but more about the
              liability on the provider.
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              <div>IMHO, Filtering should be mandatory in public access
                areas. We generally use Juniper SRX's with Websense
                backend and harsh category selection.</div>
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                  <div class="h5">On 8 October 2014 11:05, Andrew Yager
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                          <div>Hi,</div>
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                          <div>We’re currently developing a public
                            internet access solution for a public space,
                            and one of the things we’re considering is
                            content filtering as part of the solution.</div>
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                          <div>Obviously the usual caveats apply around
                            success, ability to circumvent, etc, but
                            given all of these caveats, what are
                            people’s general opinion on:</div>
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                          <div>- is it a good idea to do this in a
                            public space (think children, families, etc
                            all around)</div>
                          <div>- what sort of filtering have you
                            implemented in the past? We are looking at a
                            solution that would do simple category
                            filtering at the moment, with the option to
                            blacklist and whitelist particular URLs</div>
                          <div>- what sort of categories would you
                            generally block?</div>
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                          <div>I’m personally of the opinion that it’s a
                            “good idea” in this context although not
                            fool proof.</div>
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                          <div>Thanks,</div>
                          <div>Andrew</div>
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