[AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing Details
Joseph Goldman
joe at apcs.com.au
Wed Oct 1 13:47:32 EST 2014
I'm not a good example as I don't have a lot of path diversity or heavy
traffic - but between PIPE IX and Megaport IX (Megaport being locally
preferred, and PIPE having their AS in the middle so return path is
usually shorter via megaport), I do a good 100-130mbit in on Megaport vs
about 10-20mbit in on PIPE in peak times.
I specifically peer with Google and Cloudflare over Megaport to be sure
their traffic sticks to that ingress point. A lot of my Megaport traffic
appears to be Google.
On 01/10/14 13:28, Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> Any traffic breakdown?
>
> Routes are one thing.. but routes don't always equal traffic.
>
>
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>
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> On 1 October 2014 13:24, Tom Berryman <Tom at connectivityit.com.au
> <mailto:Tom at connectivityit.com.au>> wrote:
>
> In NSW presently:
>
> Equinix - 11609
>
> NSW-IX - 7967
>
> Megaport – 4495
>
> --we don’t have PIPE there.
>
> NSW-IX sees the highest inbound for us by about 200% over the next.
>
> Tom
>
> *From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net
> <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve
> Stevens
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:20 PM
> *To:* Bevan Slattery
> *Cc:* AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>;
> Joshua Munro; Belinda Flanders
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing Details
>
> *BAM!*
>
> Go Megaport.
>
> $250 peering only (1Gb)
>
> $500 peering + VxC capability (10Gb)
>
> News worthy day!
>
> I wonder how long till Pipe Peering dies... most networks we run
> have disconnected from it... Megaport and EQ cover most things. I
> hear IX is good, but not had the opportunity to connect up someone
> yet... will soon.
>
> I'd love to see a route differential between all 4 on a state by
> state.. I wonder if someone could do a snapshot analysis. I'm most
> interested in NSW.
>
> I'd like to see what is and isn't on each peering.
>
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
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> On 1 October 2014 12:15, Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au
> <mailto:bevan at slattery.net.au>> wrote:
>
> To make life easy as of today we are doing a 1Gbps IX only
> port for $250/month no contract, no membership, no install.
> Also will have a number of major content providers coming on
> net in next 30 days which would mean there won't be much
> that's not on either.
>
> Agree that it's time to switch :)
>
> Cheers
>
> [b]
>
>
> On 1 Oct 2014, at 11:42 am, Craig Askings
> <craig at askings.com.au <mailto:craig at askings.com.au>> wrote:
>
> Does PIPE-IX even offer a worthwhile product anymore?
> Since an IX’s value is in it’s peers and it’s ability to
> connect them. Who is left on PIPE IX that isn’t available
> on Megaport and IX-AU? How many clients are going to be
> exiting over the next 24 months as their contracts expire?
>
> On 1 Oct 2014, at 11:29 am, Bob Woolley
> <boblobsta at gmail.com <mailto:boblobsta at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> PIPE has absolutely gone to crap.
>
> Just shy of 4 weeks since our issue on QLD-IX and they
> are still trying to figure out how to make the TPG
> router on QLD-IX perform basic ARP functions (I only
> mention this as this job is being directly managed by
> PIPE).
>
> I don't know about you guys but if we had an ARP issue
> on a router for more than a few minutes I would be
> highly embarrassed.
>
> IX-AU A++
>
> Megaport A++
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob W
>
> On 1 October 2014 11:18, Sam Silvester
> <sam.silvester at gmail.com
> <mailto:sam.silvester at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> +1 to what John said.
>
> This kind of thing leads to my personal view that
> that PIPE IX isn't really a thing any longer, what
> with other IXes actually offering customer service
> that allows you to get on with the job.
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 10:09 AM, John Lindsay
> <johnslindsay at mac.com
> <mailto:johnslindsay at mac.com>> wrote:
>
> Which means your work-around is more likely to
> cause their fabric to break later when your
> old box is recycled by someone else. Change
> control policy as substitute for customer
> service is actually just crap customer service.
>
> John Lindsay
>
>
> > On 1 Oct 2014, at 10:21 am, Brad Gould
> <bradley at internode.com.au
> <mailto:bradley at internode.com.au>> wrote:
> >
> > My understanding is that this is all about
> their change control policy.
> >
> > Change the MAC on your router and book a
> window to change it back to the native MAC
> when Pipe can get their process sorted.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AusNOG
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> Behalf Of Chris Chaundy
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2014 09:36
> > To: Joseph Goldman
> > Cc: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> <mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing Details
> >
> > Dependent on your make of router, it may
> just be easier to change the MAC address for
> the interface on the new router to match the
> old router's one.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 1 Oct 2014, at 9:15, Joseph Goldman
> <joe at apcs.com.au <mailto:joe at apcs.com.au>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi list,
> >>
> >> I am just wondering if this is normal -
> trying to change MAC address for router port
> after urgent change-over for our PIPE peering
> connection in NSW, request was sent through to
> the MACD team but they are telling me the
> request needs to be approved by their
> management and ETA is 3-5 business days??
> >>
> >> I'm not a massive user of PIPE IX but I
> have now been without it for 24 hours and its
> looking like it could be another 48-72 hours
> before getting it back! For someone who might
> get a LOT of their traffic via PIPE IX this
> would be a pretty bad amount of downtime, as
> other transit links would have to pick up the
> slack.
> >>
> >> If any PIPE engineers on list willing to
> help the request move a little quicker I'd
> appreciate it.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Joe
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