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I'm not a good example as I don't have a lot of path diversity or
heavy traffic - but between PIPE IX and Megaport IX (Megaport being
locally preferred, and PIPE having their AS in the middle so return
path is usually shorter via megaport), I do a good 100-130mbit in on
Megaport vs about 10-20mbit in on PIPE in peak times.<br>
<br>
I specifically peer with Google and Cloudflare over Megaport to be
sure their traffic sticks to that ingress point. A lot of my
Megaport traffic appears to be Google.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/10/14 13:28, Skeeve Stevens
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<div dir="ltr">Any traffic breakdown?
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<div>Routes are one thing.. but routes don't always equal
traffic.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 1 October 2014 13:24, Tom Berryman <span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">In
NSW presently:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Equinix
- 11609</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">NSW-IX
- 7967</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Megaport
– 4495</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">--we
don’t have PIPE there.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">NSW-IX
sees the highest inbound for us by about 200% over
the next.</span></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [mailto:<a
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 1 October 2014 12:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bevan Slattery<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net"
target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>;
Joshua Munro; Belinda Flanders<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] PIPE NSW Changing
Details</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">*BAM!*</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Go Megaport.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">$250 peering only (1Gb)</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">$500 peering + VxC capability
(10Gb)</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">News worthy day!</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I wonder how long till Pipe
Peering dies... most networks we run have
disconnected from it... Megaport and EQ cover most
things. I hear IX is good, but not had the
opportunity to connect up someone yet... will
soon.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd love to see a route
differential between all 4 on a state by state.. I
wonder if someone could do a snapshot analysis.
I'm most interested in NSW.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd like to see what is and
isn't on each peering.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1 October 2014 12:15, Bevan
Slattery <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au"
target="_blank">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To make life easy as of
today we are doing a 1Gbps IX only port for
$250/month no contract, no membership, no
install. Also will have a number of major
content providers coming on net in next 30
days which would mean there won't be much
that's not on either.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Agree that it's time to
switch :)</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers<br>
<br>
[b]</p>
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On 1 Oct 2014, at 11:42 am, Craig Askings
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:craig@askings.com.au"
target="_blank">craig@askings.com.au</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does PIPE-IX even
offer a worthwhile product anymore?
Since an IX’s value is in it’s peers and
it’s ability to connect them. Who is
left on PIPE IX that isn’t available on
Megaport and IX-AU? How many clients are
going to be exiting over the next 24
months as their contracts expire?</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1 Oct 2014, at
11:29 am, Bob Woolley <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:boblobsta@gmail.com"
target="_blank">boblobsta@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PIPE has
absolutely gone to crap.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just shy of 4
weeks since our issue on QLD-IX
and they are still trying to
figure out how to make the TPG
router on QLD-IX perform basic
ARP functions (I only mention
this as this job is being
directly managed by PIPE).</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I don't know
about you guys but if we had an
ARP issue on a router for more
than a few minutes I would be
highly embarrassed.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">IX-AU A++</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Megaport A++</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bob W</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1 October
2014 11:18, Sam Silvester <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sam.silvester@gmail.com"
target="_blank">sam.silvester@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">+1 to
what John said.<br>
<br>
This kind of thing leads to
my personal view that that
PIPE IX isn't really a thing
any longer, what with other
IXes actually offering
customer service that allows
you to get on with the job.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On
Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at
10:09 AM, John Lindsay
<<a
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<p class="MsoNormal">Which
means your
work-around is more
likely to cause
their fabric to
break later when
your old box is
recycled by someone
else. Change control
policy as substitute
for customer service
is actually just
crap customer
service.<br>
<span
style="color:#888888"><br>
John Lindsay</span></p>
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> On 1 Oct
2014, at 10:21 am,
Brad Gould <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bradley@internode.com.au"
target="_blank">bradley@internode.com.au</a>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> My
understanding is
that this is all
about their change
control policy.<br>
><br>
> Change the
MAC on your router
and book a window
to change it back
to the native MAC
when Pipe can get
their process
sorted.<br>
><br>
> Brad<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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> Sent:
Wednesday, 1
October 2014 09:36<br>
> To: Joseph
Goldman<br>
> Cc: <a
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href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re:
[AusNOG] PIPE NSW
Changing Details<br>
><br>
> Dependent on
your make of
router, it may
just be easier to
change the MAC
address for the
interface on the
new router to
match the old
router's one.<br>
><br>
> Sent from my
iPhone<br>
><br>
>> On 1 Oct
2014, at 9:15,
Joseph Goldman
<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joe@apcs.com.au" target="_blank">joe@apcs.com.au</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi list,<br>
>><br>
>> I am just
wondering if this
is normal - trying
to change MAC
address for router
port after urgent
change-over for
our PIPE peering
connection in NSW,
request was sent
through to the
MACD team but they
are telling me the
request needs to
be approved by
their management
and ETA is 3-5
business days??<br>
>><br>
>> I'm not a
massive user of
PIPE IX but I have
now been without
it for 24 hours
and its looking
like it could be
another 48-72
hours before
getting it back!
For someone who
might get a LOT of
their traffic via
PIPE IX this would
be a pretty bad
amount of
downtime, as other
transit links
would have to pick
up the slack.<br>
>><br>
>> If any
PIPE engineers on
list willing to
help the request
move a little
quicker I'd
appreciate it.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Joe<br>
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