[AusNOG] RouterBoard

[Paul Gear]

The CPU power shouldn't be an issue, because the routing is done in 
hardware.  It's only the control & management planes that are done at 
the Linux level.  That's one of the main benefits of the Cumulus approach.

Paul

On 03/10/2014 02:10 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker wrote:
>
> So what the routing performance?
>
> Sound rather interesting, guess my initial concern would be the cpu 
> power on those devices.
>
> Alex
>
> *From:*Sheng Yeo [mailto:sheng.yeo at orionvm.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 10 March 2014 3:06 PM
> *To:* Alex Samad - Yieldbroker; Tony; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* RE: [AusNOG] RouterBoard
>
> Yup, you buy a switch like the Dell (which is a rebadged ODM switch 
> anyway -- you get support locally though, which is what makes it 
> better for smaller deployments).
>
> You then use ONIE (the boot loader) to install Cumulus Linux, which 
> you pay for yearly as a support license.
>
> It then reboots and you configure it like linux. You use 
> ifconfig/route/etc to do this.
>
> It is a Debian environment so it is quite easy to use -- it then 
> mirrors this config into hardware to accelerate it.
>
> You can run Bird/Quagga for BGP etc on the switch.
>
> *From:*Alex Samad - Yieldbroker [mailto:Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:58 PM
> *To:* Sheng Yeo; Tony; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net 
> <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [AusNOG] RouterBoard
>
> So
>
> Just let me re iterate so I can make sure I understanding (actually 
> sounds interesting).
>
> I buy a Dell S4810 switch (or is it a router ?)
>
> I load up Cumulus, which gives me linux on this device with all the 
> native drivers etc etc ..
>
> Then I just configure up like a linux box ?
>
> Alex
>
> *From:*Sheng Yeo [mailto:sheng.yeo at orionvm.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 10 March 2014 2:38 PM
> *To:* Tony; Alex Samad - Yieldbroker; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net 
> <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [AusNOG] RouterBoard
>
> Heya,
>
> We have been working with Cumulus for 8 months now and their team is 
> great.
>
> We are deploying their 40/10/1 Gig solutions in our datacenters.
>
> Performance is good as the Broadcom Trident Plus & Trident 2 switches 
> are very powerful for the price.
>
> Their architecture is great as it lets us manage it just like any 
> other Linux server in our pool, just with Hardware acceleration and 
> offload.
>
> We work closely with the team, so feel free to ping me if you have any 
> questions.
>
> Cheers,
>
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>
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> *From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Tony
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:58 PM
> *To:* Alex Samad - Yieldbroker; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net 
> <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] RouterBoard
>
> A wise person I know pointed this out to me recently:
>
> http://cumulusnetworks.com/product/overview/
>
> It is only the software though, you then buy your own "bare metal" 
> switch hardare to run it on (that has the ports that you require):
>
> http://cumulusnetworks.com/support/linux-hardware-compatibility-list/
>
> A Dell Force10 (S4810) with 48 x 10G & 4 x 40G is $10k
> Quanta with same port spec is $8800
> Accton AS5600-52X - $6000
>
> All prices are just ones that I found using google. No idea how 
> relevant they are to what you might actually be able to get the 
> hardware you require for when you ask someone for a quote.
>
> I don't know how the cost or performance works out, so please report 
> back to the list if you find any more details or evaluate them :)
>
>
>
> regards,
> Tony.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com 
> <mailto:Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com>>
> *To:* "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>" 
> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
> *Sent:* Monday, 10 March 2014 11:34 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] RouterBoard
>
> Hi
>
> My main aim of this was to find out if there is another product 
> similar to these routerboards, don't care if the cli is different, 
> more interested in spec and $$
>
> Alex
>
> *From:*Alex Samad - Yieldbroker
> *Sent:* Monday, 10 March 2014 12:33 PM
> *To:* 'Damian Guppy'
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* RE: [AusNOG] RouterBoard
>
> Hi
>
> There is no ccr1036 on the product page but there is this variant
>
> http://routerboard.com/CCR1036-8G-2Splus
>
> 2 x SFP+ ports
>
> Alex
>
> *From:*Damian Guppy [mailto:the.damo at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, 10 March 2014 12:27 PM
> *To:* Alex Samad - Yieldbroker
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] RouterBoard
>
> CCR1036 has no 10G ports, only 1G, so im not sure why you would expect 
> to get a single TCP stream past 1G (even with LACP since that is not 
> how LACP works)
>
> --Damian
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 6:58 AM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker 
> <Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com <mailto:Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
> So I have tested routerOS ... in VM and also bought the ccr1036.
>
> I'm not 100% happy with the ccr1036.  Basically can't push 1 tcp 
> stream past 1Gb/s I can get 8-9Gb/s with multiple streams. I can get 
> UDP up to 9.8Gb/s
>
> I like routerOS interface (have to admit I like the vyatta better from 
> what I saw).
>
> But now I need to find something similar to these devices around the 
> same price and around the same performance, I would like to push it 
> all to a VM but Brocade want my 1st and 2nd child ...
>
> So routerOS support is nowhere close to Cisco and rightly so for the 
> price, so I have some hesitancy in rolling these things out, 
> especially if they are going into the core.
>
> So are there any suggestions from the list ?
>
> Alex
>
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