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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The CPU power shouldn't be an issue,
because the routing is done in hardware. It's only the control
& management planes that are done at the Linux level. That's
one of the main benefits of the Cumulus approach.<br>
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Paul<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>So what the routing performance?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Sound rather interesting, guess my
initial concern would be the cpu power on those devices.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Alex</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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lang="EN-US"> Sheng Yeo [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:sheng.yeo@orionvm.com">mailto:sheng.yeo@orionvm.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 March 2014 3:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker; Tony;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] RouterBoard</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Yup, you buy a switch
like the Dell (which is a rebadged ODM switch anyway – you
get support locally though, which is what makes it better
for smaller deployments). </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">You then use ONIE (the
boot loader) to install Cumulus Linux, which you pay for
yearly as a support license.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It then reboots and
you configure it like linux. You use ifconfig/route/etc to
do this.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">It is a Debian
environment so it is quite easy to use – it then mirrors
this config into hardware to accelerate it.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">You can run
Bird/Quagga for BGP etc on the switch.
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker [<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com">mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 09, 2014 8:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sheng Yeo; Tony; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] RouterBoard</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>So</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Just let me re iterate so I can
make sure I understanding (actually sounds interesting).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I buy a Dell S4810 switch (or is it
a router ?)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I load up
</span><span lang="EN-US">Cumulus, which gives me linux on
this device with all the native drivers etc etc ..</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Then I just configure
up like a linux box ?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Alex</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Sheng Yeo [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sheng.yeo@orionvm.com">mailto:sheng.yeo@orionvm.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 March 2014 2:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tony; Alex Samad - Yieldbroker; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">
ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG] RouterBoard</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Heya,
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">We have been working
with Cumulus for 8 months now and their team is great.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">We are deploying
their 40/10/1 Gig solutions in our datacenters.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Performance is good
as the Broadcom Trident Plus & Trident 2 switches
are very powerful for the price.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Their architecture
is great as it lets us manage it just like any other
Linux server in our pool, just with Hardware
acceleration and offload.
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">We work closely with
the team, so feel free to ping me if you have any
questions.
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Cheers,
</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> AusNOG [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] RouterBoard</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">A wise person I
know pointed this out to me recently:<br>
<br>
</span><span lang="EN-US"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://cumulusnetworks.com/product/overview/"><span>http://cumulusnetworks.com/product/overview/</span></a></span><span
lang="EN-US"><br>
<br>
It is only the software though, you then buy your own
"bare metal" switch hardare to run it on (that has the
ports that you require):<br>
<br>
</span><span lang="EN-US"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://cumulusnetworks.com/support/linux-hardware-compatibility-list/"><span>http://cumulusnetworks.com/support/linux-hardware-compatibility-list/</span></a></span><span
lang="EN-US"><br>
<br>
A Dell Force10 (S4810) with 48 x 10G & 4 x 40G is
$10k<br>
Quanta with same port spec is $8800<br>
Accton AS5600-52X - $6000<br>
<br>
All prices are just ones that I found using google. No
idea how relevant they are to what you might actually
be able to get the hardware you require for when you
ask someone for a quote.<br>
<br>
I don't know how the cost or performance works out, so
please report back to the list if you find any more
details or evaluate them :)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
regards,<br>
Tony.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <</span><span
lang="EN-US"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com"><span>Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</span></a></span><span
lang="EN-US">><br>
<b>To:</b> "</span><span lang="EN-US"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"><span>ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</span></a></span><span
lang="EN-US">" <</span><span lang="EN-US"><a
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href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"><span>ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</span></a></span><span
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 March 2014 11:34 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] RouterBoard</span><span
lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi</span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">My
main aim of this was to find out if
there is another product similar to
these routerboards, don’t care if the
cli is different, more interested in
spec and $$</span><span lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Alex</span><span
lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Alex Samad -
Yieldbroker
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 March
2014 12:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Damian Guppy'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> </span><span
lang="EN-US"><a
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href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"><span>ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</span></a></span><span
lang="EN-US"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [AusNOG]
RouterBoard</span><span
lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hi</span><span
lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">There
is no ccr1036 on the product page
but there is this variant</span><span
lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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href="http://routerboard.com/CCR1036-8G-2Splus"
target="_blank"><span>http://routerboard.com/CCR1036-8G-2Splus</span></a></span><span
lang="EN-US"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">2
x SFP+ ports</span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Alex</span><span
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> Damian Guppy [</span><span
lang="EN-US"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:the.damo@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><span>mailto:the.damo@gmail.com</span></a></span><span
lang="EN-US">]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 10 March
2014 12:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Alex Samad -
Yieldbroker<br>
<b>Cc:</b> </span><span
lang="EN-US"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
target="_blank"><span>ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</span></a></span><span
lang="EN-US"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG]
RouterBoard</span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">CCR1036 has no
10G ports, only 1G, so im not
sure why you would expect to
get a single TCP stream past
1G (even with LACP since that
is not how LACP works)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">On Mon, Mar 10,
2014 at 6:58 AM, Alex Samad
- Yieldbroker <</span><span
lang="EN-US"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com"
target="_blank">Alex.Samad@yieldbroker.com</a><span>>
wrote:</span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
lang="EN-US">Hi<br>
<br>
<br>
So I have tested routerOS
... in VM and also bought
the ccr1036.<br>
<br>
I'm not 100% happy with the
ccr1036. Basically can't
push 1 tcp stream past 1Gb/s
I can get 8-9Gb/s with
multiple streams. I can get
UDP up to 9.8Gb/s<br>
<br>
I like routerOS interface
(have to admit I like the
vyatta better from what I
saw).<br>
<br>
But now I need to find
something similar to these
devices around the same
price and around the same
performance, I would like to
push it all to a VM but
Brocade want my 1st and 2nd
child ...<br>
<br>
So routerOS support is
nowhere close to Cisco and
rightly so for the price, so
I have some hesitancy in
rolling these things out,
especially if they are going
into the core.<br>
<br>
So are there any suggestions
from the list ?<br>
<br>
Alex<br>
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