[AusNOG] BlackLotus Discontinue Free Guardian Service

Sun Jul 13 08:57:08 EST 2014

I guess that's the thing.. Black lotus is not low-latency, it's in the US,
so either ALL your traffic goes via the US, or you only use them to
mitigate international DDoS traffic, and have enough domestic to weather
out the domestic part of an attach (Of have a good automated blackholing
system to drop the attacked /32 locally so it ends up going via the US
during the attack)   (Though from the looks of Jared's post, that's about
to change, woo!).

On 13 July 2014 08:46, Trent Farrell <tfarrell at riotgames.com> wrote:

> I don't know how that could compete at all with a permanent low-latency
> off-ramp solution, so I'm not sure if that's accurate.
>
> Taking 5-10 minutes is brutal, and could potentially lead to 30-60 minutes
> of downstream problems if your firewalls fall over, for example. I'd always
> pay for the off ramp if I didn't have the budget to do it myself.
>
> On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I'd certainly be interested to hear.  As I understood it, Micron21 are
>> not a full-time provider, so you have to bear the first 5-10 minutes of the
>> attack until they notice and login to your router and de-advertise the /24
>> out your bgp, and then advertise it out theirs?..   Well, that's how it was
>> explained to me by one of their customers when they took it up ~6 months
>> ago?
>>
>>
>> On 12 July 2014 23:52, Skeeve Stevens <
>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently Micron21 use the same hardware but offer some extra value...
>>> but I will let those guys explain it as I am far from being an expert in
>>> that area.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> The Experts Who The Experts Call
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Jared Hirst <
>>> jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Black lotus just released a AU scrubbing centre :-)
>>>>
>>>> They now have a few around the world so I guess the best option for
>>>> people wanting to be protected world wide is to get on board with black
>>>> lotus. For the small amount it costs it's totally worth it!
>>>>
>>>> Every single day our portal is full of attacks being mitigated by black
>>>> lotus :-)
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Skeeve Stevens <
>>>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Actually yes.... I learnt more about Micron21 and Blacklotus the other
>>>>> day.  But rather than me repeating it and maybe getting it wrong, James,
>>>>> can you explain where Micron21 is like/better than BlackLotus as you have
>>>>> to me recently.
>>>>>
>>>>> I only ask this, not as a sales thing for Micron21, but so the whole
>>>>> community can know the advantages without James having to explain it one by
>>>>> one
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ...Skeeve
>>>>>
>>>>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>>>>  skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>>>>>
>>>>> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ;  <http://twitter.com/networkceoau>
>>>>> linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>>>>>
>>>>> twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Experts Who The Experts Call
>>>>> Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Gary Buckmaster <
>>>>> gary.buckmaster at digitalpacific.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Or for that matter, using a domestic service like Micron21 which is
>>>>>> awesome and reasonably priced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>> From: Jared Hirst
>>>>>> Date:12/07/2014 15:39 (GMT+10:00)
>>>>>> To: Daniel Watson
>>>>>> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] BlackLotus Discontinue Free Guardian Service
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's cheap as to buy and if you find it protects you why not buy it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Daniel Watson <Daniel at glovine.com.au>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi Guys
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I woke up to this email, this morning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I regret to inform you that after July 31st, we will no longer be
>>>>>>> offering Free Guardian Service. Any free services you have with Black Lotus
>>>>>>> will terminate on August 1st 2014.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let me know if you are interested in discussing moving to one
>>>>>>> of our Paid Protection for Networks plans. Since you are currently on
>>>>>>> Guardian, I can offer you a ramp discount to help with the new cost of the
>>>>>>> service.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christine Gaylor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sales Team, Black Lotus Communications
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was wondering if any other providers on-list offer a free service
>>>>>>> or know of any other free services out there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel Watson
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Network Administrator / Network Operations Manager
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> E Daniel at GloVine.com.au
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> W www.GloVine.com.au
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>> Damien Gardner Jnr
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>
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> *Trent Farrell*
>
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>
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