[AusNOG] BlackLotus Discontinue Free Guardian Service

Sun Jul 13 08:46:20 EST 2014

I don't know how that could compete at all with a permanent low-latency
off-ramp solution, so I'm not sure if that's accurate.

Taking 5-10 minutes is brutal, and could potentially lead to 30-60 minutes
of downstream problems if your firewalls fall over, for example. I'd always
pay for the off ramp if I didn't have the budget to do it myself.

On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net> wrote:

> I'd certainly be interested to hear.  As I understood it, Micron21 are not
> a full-time provider, so you have to bear the first 5-10 minutes of the
> attack until they notice and login to your router and de-advertise the /24
> out your bgp, and then advertise it out theirs?..   Well, that's how it was
> explained to me by one of their customers when they took it up ~6 months
> ago?
>
>
> On 12 July 2014 23:52, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com');>>
> wrote:
>
>> Apparently Micron21 use the same hardware but offer some extra value...
>> but I will let those guys explain it as I am far from being an expert in
>> that area.
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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>>
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>>
>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Jared Hirst <
>> jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au');>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Black lotus just released a AU scrubbing centre :-)
>>>
>>> They now have a few around the world so I guess the best option for
>>> people wanting to be protected world wide is to get on board with black
>>> lotus. For the small amount it costs it's totally worth it!
>>>
>>> Every single day our portal is full of attacks being mitigated by black
>>> lotus :-)
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Skeeve Stevens <
>>> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','skeeve%2Bausnog at eintellegonetworks.com');>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually yes.... I learnt more about Micron21 and Blacklotus the other
>>>> day.  But rather than me repeating it and maybe getting it wrong, James,
>>>> can you explain where Micron21 is like/better than BlackLotus as you have
>>>> to me recently.
>>>>
>>>> I only ask this, not as a sales thing for Micron21, but so the whole
>>>> community can know the advantages without James having to explain it one by
>>>> one
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ...Skeeve
>>>>
>>>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>>>  skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com
>>>>
>>>> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve
>>>>
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>>>> linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>>>>
>>>> twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Experts Who The Experts Call
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Gary Buckmaster <
>>>> gary.buckmaster at digitalpacific.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Or for that matter, using a domestic service like Micron21 which is
>>>>> awesome and reasonably priced.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> From: Jared Hirst
>>>>> Date:12/07/2014 15:39 (GMT+10:00)
>>>>> To: Daniel Watson
>>>>> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] BlackLotus Discontinue Free Guardian Service
>>>>>
>>>>> It's cheap as to buy and if you find it protects you why not buy it?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Daniel Watson <Daniel at glovine.com.au>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Guys
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I woke up to this email, this morning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I regret to inform you that after July 31st, we will no longer be
>>>>>> offering Free Guardian Service. Any free services you have with Black Lotus
>>>>>> will terminate on August 1st 2014.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know if you are interested in discussing moving to one
>>>>>> of our Paid Protection for Networks plans. Since you are currently on
>>>>>> Guardian, I can offer you a ramp discount to help with the new cost of the
>>>>>> service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christine Gaylor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sales Team, Black Lotus Communications
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was wondering if any other providers on-list offer a free service
>>>>>> or know of any other free services out there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daniel Watson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Network Administrator / Network Operations Manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E Daniel at GloVine.com.au
>>>>>>
>>>>>> W www.GloVine.com.au
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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