<div dir="ltr">I guess that's the thing.. Black lotus is not low-latency, it's in the US, so either ALL your traffic goes via the US, or you only use them to mitigate international DDoS traffic, and have enough domestic to weather out the domestic part of an attach (Of have a good automated blackholing system to drop the attacked /32 locally so it ends up going via the US during the attack) (Though from the looks of Jared's post, that's about to change, woo!). </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 July 2014 08:46, Trent Farrell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tfarrell@riotgames.com" target="_blank">tfarrell@riotgames.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I don't know how that could compete at all with a permanent low-latency off-ramp solution, so I'm not sure if that's accurate.<div><br></div><div>Taking 5-10 minutes is brutal, and could potentially lead to 30-60 minutes of downstream problems if your firewalls fall over, for example. I'd always pay for the off ramp if I didn't have the budget to do it myself.<span></span></div>
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<div><br></div><div>On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Damien Gardner Jnr <<a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">I'd certainly be interested to hear. As I understood it, Micron21 are not a full-time provider, so you have to bear the first 5-10 minutes of the attack until they notice and login to your router and de-advertise the /24 out your bgp, and then advertise it out theirs?.. Well, that's how it was explained to me by one of their customers when they took it up ~6 months ago?</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 July 2014 23:52, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a>skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Apparently Micron21 use the same hardware but offer some extra value... but I will let those guys explain it as I am far from being an expert in that area.</div>
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<br><br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Jared Hirst <span dir="ltr"><<a>jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Black lotus just released a AU scrubbing centre :-) <div><br></div><div>They now have a few around the world so I guess the best option for people wanting to be protected world wide is to get on board with black lotus. For the small amount it costs it's totally worth it!</div>
<div><br></div><div>Every single day our portal is full of attacks being mitigated by black lotus :-)<br><br>On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Skeeve Stevens <<a>skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Actually yes.... I learnt more about Micron21 and Blacklotus the other day. But rather than me repeating it and maybe getting it wrong, James, can you explain where Micron21 is like/better than BlackLotus as you have to me recently.<div>
<br></div><div>I only ask this, not as a sales thing for Micron21, but so the whole community can know the advantages without James having to explain it one by one</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Gary Buckmaster <span dir="ltr"><<a>gary.buckmaster@digitalpacific.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Or for that matter, using a domestic service like Micron21 which is awesome and reasonably priced. </div><br>
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<div>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] BlackLotus Discontinue Free Guardian Service </div><div><br></div>It's cheap as to buy and if you find it protects you why not buy it?<br><br>On Saturday, July 12, 2014, Daniel Watson <<a>Daniel@glovine.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Guys<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I woke up to this email, this morning.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>I regret to inform you that after July 31st, we will no longer be offering Free Guardian Service. Any free services you have with Black Lotus will terminate on August 1st 2014.
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<p>Please let me know if you are interested in discussing moving to one of our Paid Protection for Networks plans. Since you are currently on Guardian, I can offer you a ramp discount to help with the new cost of the service.
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