[AusNOG] Thoughts about IP Transit

[Skeeve Stevens]

Absolutely.. no matter what products are offered someone will abuse it.
 But that is simply a matter of productisation, planning and building your
product correctly.


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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Jared Hirst <
jared.hirst at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Skeeve,
>
> I can see that being abused for the sole purpose of absorbing a ddos
> attack.
>
> It would have to be limited to a certain cap or capacity to be viable
> other wise I could could buy a 10gbit transit port for an our to soak up a
> massive ddos attack, putting strain on The upstream provider for that hour
> and paying peanuts for it.... Thus in turn increasing the cost of transit
> as that said upstream needs to charge more to have the capacity 'on demand'
>
> 100% agree that it could be viable in small situations but large scale
> would mean pain for everyone. Just my 2c
>
> Jared
>
> On Wednesday, July 2, 2014, Skeeve Stevens <
> skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> Absolutely.  One of the greatest benefits of Virtual X-Connect Fabrics
>> like Megaport is the On Demand nature of the infrastructure.
>>
>> All it will take to shake up the market is someone willing to offer very
>> creative options - including as you suggested, on demand, by the hour or
>> day transit capacity... which I think is an excellent idea and would love
>> to see people offering this sort of product.
>>
>> The problem with that is the same as the Volume business back in the
>> day... they would sell by the volume, but access ports were normally
>> high... but when there was a massive transit demand, the over subscription
>> would blow out the network.
>>
>> So, depending on the suppliers pipe sizes, and how much they sell, and if
>> they carefully control their exposure, then certainly it is a viable
>> product.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ...Skeeve
>>
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>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Chris Gibbs <
>> Chris.Gibbs at gosford.nsw.gov.au> wrote:
>>
>>>  Good video Skeeve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Expanding your rationale, instead of purchasing overhead in transit
>>> speed, wouldn’t it be more efficient to source transit over megaport (or
>>> other??) and pay per hour/day/month/whatever. Potentially even grabbing
>>> upstream from a ‘transit broker’ (I don’t even know if they exist?) that is
>>> a clearing house for current unused upsteam? Similar to spot reserve in EC2
>>> I’d imagine
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure have dedicated upstream for known traffic patterns but ‘burst’ out
>>> for anything else.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Couple it with a decent API and an underlying programmable network and I
>>> think it could be decent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
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>>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Skeeve
>>> Stevens
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 July 2014 6:30 PM
>>> *To:* ausnog at ausnog.net
>>> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Thoughts about IP Transit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a follow-up video relating to the current state of the transit
>>> space discussion recently.  I thought I would get some thoughts out of my
>>> head as a lot of people ask me about transit and I thought others might
>>> find it useful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This video isn't meant to stir up people, but I am sure it may,
>>> especially those selling transit in a certain way.  This video is more
>>> about educating people about the value of transit in certain kinds of ways.
>>>  It is about 14 mins long, but I'd like to know what you thought if you
>>> have time to watch it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://theispguy.com/thoughts-about-transit/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ...Skeeve
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
>>>
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