[AusNOG] Thoughts about IP Transit

Wed Jul 2 22:50:31 EST 2014

Hi Skeeve,

I can see that being abused for the sole purpose of absorbing a ddos attack.

It would have to be limited to a certain cap or capacity to be viable other
wise I could could buy a 10gbit transit port for an our to soak up a
massive ddos attack, putting strain on The upstream provider for that hour
and paying peanuts for it.... Thus in turn increasing the cost of transit
as that said upstream needs to charge more to have the capacity 'on demand'

100% agree that it could be viable in small situations but large scale
would mean pain for everyone. Just my 2c

Jared

On Wednesday, July 2, 2014, Skeeve Stevens <
skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:

> Chris,
>
> Absolutely.  One of the greatest benefits of Virtual X-Connect Fabrics
> like Megaport is the On Demand nature of the infrastructure.
>
> All it will take to shake up the market is someone willing to offer very
> creative options - including as you suggested, on demand, by the hour or
> day transit capacity... which I think is an excellent idea and would love
> to see people offering this sort of product.
>
> The problem with that is the same as the Volume business back in the
> day... they would sell by the volume, but access ports were normally
> high... but when there was a massive transit demand, the over subscription
> would blow out the network.
>
> So, depending on the suppliers pipe sizes, and how much they sell, and if
> they carefully control their exposure, then certainly it is a viable
> product.
>
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> ...Skeeve
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> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Chris Gibbs <
> Chris.Gibbs at gosford.nsw.gov.au
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Chris.Gibbs at gosford.nsw.gov.au');>> wrote:
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>>  Good video Skeeve.
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>>
>>
>> Expanding your rationale, instead of purchasing overhead in transit
>> speed, wouldn’t it be more efficient to source transit over megaport (or
>> other??) and pay per hour/day/month/whatever. Potentially even grabbing
>> upstream from a ‘transit broker’ (I don’t even know if they exist?) that is
>> a clearing house for current unused upsteam? Similar to spot reserve in EC2
>> I’d imagine
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>> Sure have dedicated upstream for known traffic patterns but ‘burst’ out
>> for anything else.
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>> Couple it with a decent API and an underlying programmable network and I
>> think it could be decent
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>> Cheers,
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>> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Thoughts about IP Transit
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>> Hey all,
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>> This is a follow-up video relating to the current state of the transit
>> space discussion recently.  I thought I would get some thoughts out of my
>> head as a lot of people ask me about transit and I thought others might
>> find it useful.
>>
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>>
>> This video isn't meant to stir up people, but I am sure it may,
>> especially those selling transit in a certain way.  This video is more
>> about educating people about the value of transit in certain kinds of ways.
>>  It is about 14 mins long, but I'd like to know what you thought if you
>> have time to watch it.
>>
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>> http://theispguy.com/thoughts-about-transit/
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>> ...Skeeve
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