[AusNOG] Thoughts about IP Transit

Wed Jul 2 23:32:25 EST 2014

There is a certain amount of truth to what James is saying, but there is
always going to be need for redundant or rapid growth options.  The bigger
the network the less need for adhoc capacity or major fluctuations in
traffic profile.

But, while I don't think it will be a huge market, I am sure there is still
a market out there for the right product offering.

...Skeeve

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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:48 PM, James Spenceley <james at iroute.org> wrote:

> I remember meeting Enron in 1999 and again in 2000 regarding their
> bandwidth commodity market and future/option trading of bandwidth. Was a
> pretty funny meeting.
>
> Bandwidth isn't that complex to be traded in such a method and the vast
> majority of users of BW have a very predictable and consistent profile,
> that doesn't lend itself to trading as with other markets. There is also a
> distinct lack of Mother's Day events or they don't have them often enough
> to consistently create demand for  trading such a commodity.
>
> BW is generally pretty predictable and this pretty boring.
>
> James
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 2 Jul 2014, at 21:46, "Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral" <
> kristoffer.sheather at cloudcentral.com.au> wrote:
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> It's the age old capacity planning and yield management question.  How do
> I extract the best return on capital from my fixed infrastructure
> investment.  Purchasing smaller amounts of fixed capacity via Megaport is a
> good idea, but you'll need to weigh that up versus the Megaport port
> charges and higher 'spot pricing'.
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> This kind of model upons up the idea of treating network as tradeable
> commodities leading to arbitrate opportunities etc.  Very interesting
> stuff.  The future will be exciting.
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> *Subject*: Re: [AusNOG] Thoughts about IP Transit
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> Good video Skeeve.
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> Expanding your rationale, instead of purchasing overhead in transit speed,
> wouldn’t it be more efficient to source transit over megaport (or other??)
> and pay per hour/day/month/whatever. Potentially even grabbing upstream
> from a ‘transit broker’ (I don’t even know if they exist?) that is a
> clearing house for current unused upsteam? Similar to spot reserve in EC2
> I’d imagine
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> Sure have dedicated upstream for known traffic patterns but ‘burst’ out
> for anything else.
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> Couple it with a decent API and an underlying programmable network and I
> think it could be decent
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> Cheers,
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, 2 July 2014 6:30 PM
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> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Thoughts about IP Transit
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> Hey all,
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> This is a follow-up video relating to the current state of the transit
> space discussion recently.  I thought I would get some thoughts out of my
> head as a lot of people ask me about transit and I thought others might
> find it useful.
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> This video isn't meant to stir up people, but I am sure it may, especially
> those selling transit in a certain way.  This video is more about educating
> people about the value of transit in certain kinds of ways.  It is about 14
> mins long, but I'd like to know what you thought if you have time to watch
> it.
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> http://theispguy.com/thoughts-about-transit/
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> ...Skeeve
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