<div dir="ltr">There is a certain amount of truth to what James is saying, but there is always going to be need for redundant or rapid growth options. The bigger the network the less need for adhoc capacity or major fluctuations in traffic profile.<div>
<br></div><div>But, while I don't think it will be a huge market, I am sure there is still a market out there for the right product offering.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:48 PM, James Spenceley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:james@iroute.org" target="_blank">james@iroute.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div>I remember meeting Enron in 1999 and again in 2000 regarding their bandwidth commodity market and future/option trading of bandwidth. Was a pretty funny meeting.</div><div><br></div><div>Bandwidth isn't that complex to be traded in such a method and the vast majority of users of BW have a very predictable and consistent profile, that doesn't lend itself to trading as with other markets. There is also a distinct lack of Mother's Day events or they don't have them often enough to consistently create demand for trading such a commodity.</div>
<div><br></div><div>BW is generally pretty predictable and this pretty boring.</div><div><br></div><div>James</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 2 Jul 2014, at 21:46, "Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral" <<a href="mailto:kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au" target="_blank">kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,Sans-Serif;font-size:12px"><div>It's the age old capacity planning and yield management question. How do I extract the best return on capital from my fixed infrastructure investment. Purchasing smaller amounts of fixed capacity via Megaport is a good idea, but you'll need to weigh that up versus the Megaport port charges and higher 'spot pricing'.</div>
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<div>This kind of model upons up the idea of treating network as tradeable commodities leading to arbitrate opportunities etc. Very interesting stuff. The future will be exciting.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Expanding your rationale, instead of purchasing overhead in transit speed, wouldn’t it be more efficient to source transit over megaport (or other??) and pay per hour/day/month/whatever. Potentially even grabbing upstream from a ‘transit broker’ (I don’t even know if they exist?) that is a clearing house for current unused upsteam? Similar to spot reserve in EC2 I’d imagine </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Sure have dedicated upstream for known traffic patterns but ‘burst’ out for anything else.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Couple it with a decent API and an underlying programmable network and I think it could be decent</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This video isn't meant to stir up people, but I am sure it may, especially those selling transit in a certain way. This video is more about educating people about the value of transit in certain kinds of ways. It is about 14 mins long, but I'd like to know what you thought if you have time to watch it.</p>
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